Experts pls help! Day 6 candling of quail

[jopu93]

Hi experts, I'm at day 6 of candling quail eggs. I could still see veins on day 3 but I'm not sure if its due to temperature spike or bacteria, all my eggs suddenly lost their veins and look dark in the middle.

This egg below still has its air sac and dark in the middle but no veins at all. Its clear at the pointy end.

Then this egg below looked like the egg above yesterday but started to develop blood ring today (im worried if my eggs all follow this trend and develop blood ring)

And lastly this egg still has its air sac but no veins... is this bacteria ring?

 

[Patiocoturnix]

Hi experts, I'm at day 6 of candling quail eggs. I could still see veins on day 3 but I'm not sure if its due to temperature spike or bacteria, all my eggs suddenly lost their veins and look dark in the middle.

This egg below still has its air sac and dark in the middle but no veins at all. Its clear at the pointy end.
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Then this egg below looked like the egg above yesterday but started to develop blood ring today (im worried if my eggs all follow this trend and develop blood ring)

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And lastly this egg still has its air sac but no veins... is this bacteria ring?
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They look like they are devolving and your flashlight just isn’t strong enough to see into the middle of the egg I would leave them in.

 

[jopu93]

They look like they are devolving and your flashlight just isn’t strong enough to see into the middle of the egg I would leave them in.

It looked like this on day 3... then all veins gone .. i used the same flashlight

 

[Patiocoturnix]

It looked like this on day 3... then all veins gone .. i used the same flashlight View attachment 3600326

Yes they are more developed since day 3 so they are darker meaning the same flashlight you used might not be powerful enough by day 6 my phone flashlight is no good for candling.

 

[jopu93]

Yes they are more developed since day 3 so they are darker meaning the same flashlight you used might not be powerful enough by day 6 my phone flashlight is no good for candling.

I see, I really hope they can make it!!

 

[Nabiki]

The third and last pictures don't look good to me. The first one looks iffy, but candle it again in a few days to see how it's doing.

 

[jopu93]

The third and last pictures don't look good to me. The first one looks iffy, but candle it again in a few days to see how it's doing.

yes i spotted a blood ring on the second pic, so i guess thats a goner... third one is slanted in a weird way i dont know why...

 

[Nabiki]

yes i spotted a blood ring on the second pic, so i guess thats a goner... third one is slanted in a weird way i dont know why...

If you're lucky, it's just a slightly malformed air cell. If you're not, the chick has stopped developing. See how it looks in a few days.

 

[007Sean]

If they are not shipped eggs, the blood ring can be caused by a spike in the temperature of the bator. I had quite a few eggs that had blood rings this season....candled them before setting and found blood rings...they were in the enclosure all day and the temperature here has been 103°F to 106°F most days. So temperature can definitely cause blood rings, not just rough handling.

 

[Oob Child]

I don’t have anything really to add. You are right about the blood ring, but patiocoturnix is right, your flashlight just may not be strong enough. That is a pretty cool day 3 pic though! Nabiki is right about the possible cause of the strange looking one, it could just be a deformed air sack.

I recommend keeping them in a few days longer. If the ‘black stuff’ starts taking up more space that is probably just the embryo growing.

Good luck with your eggs, and please, keep us updated!