Famous Hatchery 'Pure Bred' Appearances

[MROO]

I love them too! I just can't find them in this barren area in Canada

I'm not too familiar with the foreign standards...
I can't tell the difference between bad ones, and what they should look like lol

They're a landrace and I don't think there really IS a standard. According to the few proponents I've spoken with or read up on (including a passing conversation with a visitor from - of all places ... Sweden!), the US breeders have it "All Wrong." My Swedish "friend" was adamant. According to her, the people "selectively breeding" Swedish Flowers are actually screwing up the breed. The entire point of the SWF is that nature selects the ones best adapted for the environment, color-be-hanged. That's what created the breed in the first place - and the entire point of a landrace!

 

[BlackHackle]

They're a landrace and I don't think there really IS a standard. According to the few proponents I've spoken with or read up on (including a passing conversation with a visitor from - of all places ... Sweden!), the US breeders have it "All Wrong." My Swedish "friend" was adamant. According to her, the people "selectively breeding" Swedish Flowers are actually screwing up the breed. The entire point of the SWF is that nature selects the ones best adapted for the environment, color-be-hanged. That's what created the breed in the first place - and the entire point of a landrace!

This makes sense. So, since landrace breeds like the Bresse, Swedish Flower Hen, Ixworth, etc don't have a standard, are they then bred like dogs as in they are strickly pure bred? If you know what I mean..

 

[Amer]

This makes sense. So, since landrace breeds like the Bresse, Swedish Flower Hen, Ixworth, etc don't have a standard, are they then bred like dogs as in they are strickly pure bred? If you know what I mean..

Ixworth and Bresse do have stabdards though. Just not American standards. There aren't hatchery quality ones though because no hatcheries carry them.

 

[BlackHackle]

Ixworth and Bresse do have stabdards though. Just not American standards. There aren't hatchery quality ones though because no hatcheries carry them.

I breed both those breeds. Even though there are no hatcheries that carry them, there are many low quality ones obviously

 

[MissChick@dee]

Oh dear ... between Klinger (think M.A.S.H.) running rampant through a hatchery and this quote, I do SO want to make a comment here ... but it's not that kind of party, so I'll bite my tongue and laugh hysterically under the table ...

 

[MissChick@dee]

Oh....awh....like watching fireworks!! Just love the comparisons

 

[Kessel23]

Can you post pictures of egyptian fayoumi? I have 4 of them that I got this year and they are quickly becoming my favorite birds because of how skilled they are at free ranging. They are all hens but they seem more alert than some of my roosters. It is also cool watching chickens fly around the barnyard like guinea hens, idk if it is just the birds from McMurray's breeding flock or what but they have been excellent so far. I am going to cross breed them to a cornish cross and see what happens.

 

[BreanneRN]

They're a landrace and I don't think there really IS a standard. According to the few proponents I've spoken with or read up on (including a passing conversation with a visitor from - of all places ... Sweden!), the US breeders have it "All Wrong." My Swedish "friend" was adamant. According to her, the people "selectively breeding" Swedish Flowers are actually screwing up the breed. The entire point of the SWF is that nature selects the ones best adapted for the environment, color-be-hanged. That's what created the breed in the first place - and the entire point of a landrace!

The trouble with that is that once you take them out of Sweden, they are exposed to a host of different environments and become Texas Flowers or Desert Flowers or Syrian Flowers or Icelandic Flowers... And the state that I live in has so many and varied environmental strata there would soon be 80 different varieties...

 

[MissChick@dee]

So that means if I had a Boston Terrier (a US dog) and I took it to Reykjavik (Iceland) because of the different environment and the exposure to that environment it would no longer be a Boston Terrier, it would be a Reykjavik Terrier? Or if I took it to Stockholm it now would be a Swedish Terrier? And if I bread that Boston Terrier with another Boston Terrier who happened to be from California it would be a Bostocali Terrier. Isn’t a breed a breed does not matter what piece of ground they breed on?

Strata.
Me thinks has nothing to do with a breed. Or how they breed.

 

[BreanneRN]

So that means if I had a Boston Terrier (a US dog) and I took it to Reykjavik (Iceland) because of the different environment and the exposure to that environment it would no longer be a Boston Terrier, it would be a Reykjavik Terrier? Or if I took it to Stockholm it now would be a Swedish Terrier? And if I bread that Boston Terrier with another Boston Terrier who happened to be from California it would be a Bostocali Terrier. Isn’t a breed a breed does not matter what piece of ground they breed on?


Me thinks has nothing to do with a breed. Or how they breed.

If you took a Boston Terrier to Reykajavik and let it landrace it would soon freeze to death, and would not reproduce it's kind. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landrace Only with human intervention and support would it be able to survive. Thus, it would not be a landrace, and would not become a Reykajavik Terrier over time because it is not a coated breed and would be unable to adapt to it's environment in anywhere near enough time to survive and reproduce it's kind. Also, we are not talking about dogs, which are purebred, have an SOP, and have to be registered. We are talking about chickens, which are not, and do not. My quoted comment referred only to the Swedish Flower, which the Swedish person stated was being "ruined by the SOP's" of other countries because it is supposed to adapt to it's environment as a landrace in response to it's natural environment and color and other factors should not be considered. Obviously, a different environment, over time, with that being the only selective process, would eventually present with quite a different bird.