First hatch chicks flipped over pipped eggs, not looking good

[Rose Quartz]

I’m thinking I can clean out one of my incubators, move the remaining 5 eggs in it in with the other 14 or so... drop the humidity that way, then move the eggs into it once the temperature is up again? Would this help the other eggs that haven’t pipped? The humidity was fine until lockdown, then it skyrocketed from 50-55% up to 70... climbing all the time up to even 85%... we live in a fairly humid area to begin with. And I barely added any water at lockdown. Is there any way I might be able to save the rest of the hatch? Please help!

The higher humidity could be causing the temp drop.

Im kind of leery of saying open it and get rid of the water....since that usually means taking everything out. but... you might have to.

 

[Kris5902]

The higher humidity could be causing the temp drop.

Im kind of leery of saying open it and get rid of the water....since that usually means taking everything out. but... you might have to.

I have two incubators going... so I could switch them into the second that is pretty much empty now... after I remove the water from it, if there is any chance of saving the rest... they haven’t pipped yet and day 21 is almost over?

 

[Rose Quartz]

I have two incubators going... so I could switch them into the second that is pretty much empty now... after I remove the water from it, if there is any chance of saving the rest... they haven’t pipped yet and day 21 is almost over?

most give eggs to day 25. it's possible there were temperature variations and the other eggs are just a bit behind. you cant try candling them as you move them but try not to move them around much while you're moving them.

what you would be looking for: draw down - the aircell goes way down on one side just before internal pipping.

internal pipping - there might be a shadow inside the aircell area moving around there wouldn't be a lot of movement but you might spot it

or any movement at all of the chick. you might not be able to see it if there's no internal pip. the eggs going to be really dark at this point.

 

[Kris5902]

Ok, firstly, thank you everyone for all the help. I washed, dried and reheated the incubator with just a few eggs in it (transferred the eggs to the bator with all my isbar eggs). I put down a clean dry wash cloth on the mesh and A small damp paper towel wad under the vent hole with a straw to it if more humidity is needed. I placed all the eggs into this incubator and feel much better about it now.

I have helped out the stuck chick a bit more, no more bleeding, but it’s pretty sticky and may have its eye glued shut. I oiled the membrane carefully, and am now letting it warm back up and rest a bit.

Humidity is at 56% and temps are holding fairly well at 98.9-99.5f. I’m using a little giant circulated air incubator.

I’m incubating eggs from a nearby farm, they weren’t as clean as I would’ve liked and there 6 different breeds. All my Marans and most of my barnvelders hatched first, I’m having issues with the isbar and Orpingtons, but I’m not sureexactly when and how the eggs were collected.

Lastly, thank you, thank you, thank you SO much! I will keep at the hatch until certain it’s over. And will give updates. Any other thoughts or suggestions for the future? I’m appreciative of any suggestions and recommendations.

 

[007Sean]

Ok, firstly, thank you everyone for all the help. I washed, dried and reheated the incubator with just a few eggs in it (transferred the eggs to the bator with all my isbar eggs). I put down a clean dry wash cloth on the mesh and A small damp paper towel wad under the vent hole with a straw to it if more humidity is needed. I placed all the eggs into this incubator and feel much better about it now.

I have helped out the stuck chick a bit more, no more bleeding, but it’s pretty sticky and may have its eye glued shut. I oiled the membrane carefully, and am now letting it warm back up and rest a bit.

Humidity is at 56% and temps are holding fairly well at 98.9-99.5f. I’m using a little giant circulated air incubator.

I’m incubating eggs from a nearby farm, they weren’t as clean as I would’ve liked and there 6 different breeds. All my Marans and most of my barnvelders hatched first, I’m having issues with the isbar and Orpingtons, but I’m not sureexactly when and how the eggs were collected.

Lastly, thank you, thank you, thank you SO much! I will keep at the hatch until certain it’s over. And will give updates. Any other thoughts or suggestions for the future? I’m appreciative of any suggestions and recommendations.

Classic example of too high humidity during hatching!
I have helped out the stuck chick a bit more, no more bleeding, but it’s pretty sticky and may have its eye glued shut. I oiled the membrane carefully, and am now letting it warm back up and rest a bit.

 

[Kris5902]

Thank you for the info, this is my very first hatch, in a costal environment on an island between Vancouver and Victoria BC where the average relative humidity outside this time of year is 83% and we receive a notable amount of rain... I am asking for help because I DONT know what I am doing, just what I have read. I’m glad I provided a classic example of what not to do. I already feel horrible for my mistakes so there is no reason to berate me for them.

BTW if you ever want advise on delivering a breech calf with a turned back foreleg alive i’m Glad to give my input on that.

If anyone has any constructive criticism or advise on ways to prevent this in the future I am happy to receive that, but really there’s no reason to kick a newbie when they are down, thank you.

Humidity stable at 53% I am terrified to add water now at all thanks, temp 99-99.5f

 

[Kris5902]

Classic example of too high humidity during hatching!
I have helped out the stuck chick a bit more, no more bleeding, but it’s pretty sticky and may have its eye glued shut. I oiled the membrane carefully, and am now letting it warm back up and rest a bit.

 

[Kris5902]

She is out and chirping... the yellow is oiled membrane... NOT yolk sack, her navel is completely healed but some of the inner membrane is stuck to her back and wing. I didn’t want her to chill so I returned her to incubator. Humidity 51%

 

[007Sean]

Thank you for the info, this is my very first hatch, in a costal environment on an island between Vancouver and Victoria BC where the average relative humidity outside this time of year is 83% and we receive a notable amount of rain... I am asking for help because I DONT know what I am doing, just what I have read. I’m glad I provided a classic example of what not to do. I already feel horrible for my mistakes so there is no reason to berate me for them.

BTW if you ever want advise on delivering a breech calf with a turned back foreleg alive i’m Glad to give my input on that.

If anyone has any constructive criticism or advise on ways to prevent this in the future I am happy to receive that, but really there’s no reason to kick a newbie when they are down, thank you.

Humidity stable at 53% I am terrified to add water now at all thanks, temp 99-99.5f

Sorry if it was taken that way. I was merely saying that too high of % humidity is the results...not that you did something wrong. And if you ever need directions on how to do a C-section on a cow, while the cow is standing, I can tell you how to do that too!
No offense was intended.

 

[Rose Quartz]

For future, generally i do a test run before setting any eggs (not sure if you did one.) What youre testing for is hot and cold spots with your own thermometer that you know is reading correctly. That should give you an idea of which eggs might be early or later.

Im not sure how the humidity is set up with that incubator but usually its water wells in the bottom. While youre running it fill the smallest well and see where that puts your humidity. It should spike and then level off. If its over 75% 2 hours after adding the water, youll have to find a different way to add water. What you have set up now isnt really the best solution because you are blocking ventilation. But for now if its working itll have to do. (I may be misunderstanding how you have it set up. If so sorry. )

In the future you could try putting a damp cloth on the floor below the ventilation so you can still add water.


What 007sean said, i actually didnt know that high humidity just for hatching would cause this problem. I assumed it was if it was high humidity for the whole incubation.

Ive been hatching for about 4 years and there's still things to be learned.

Hope the rest of your chickies make it.