Florida welfare drug testing

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He lives in Texas now a days, but his ranch was out near Jackson Michigan... I am the first burg south of Flint lol. And I am about 1/2 mile off the bus route...


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Yeppers! He is pretty fun actually. I'd love to do a hunt with him but when I was more serious about it and he offered that (it all cost $$ ya know) my x wife was preggers with our middle boy and the money wasn't there for a guided hunt when I could just go out back..
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He has hunted mule deer in Oregons' Harney county I remember him saying that. I have curtailed my hunts as of lately also. I will share some interesting bowhunting stories with you some time.
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Yeppers! He is pretty fun actually. I'd love to do a hunt with him but when I was more serious about it and he offered that (it all cost $$ ya know) my x wife was preggers with our middle boy and the money wasn't there for a guided hunt when I could just go out back..
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Maybe also it should be run like pa wic. They go by income of everyone in household regardless of marriage or not. I wad once able to get food stamps med assistance and the cash because i was an unworking unmarried preg women. But wic couldn't help because the guy i lived with made to much. And those women who cant figure out more kids isn't gonna help we have plenty of places that hand out free birth control. Its not sterilization but taking responsibility for your actions. Maybe we shouldnt give extra cash for more kids. Just medical and foodstamps. Less incentive to keep popping em out?
 
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Good idea! I would never want the children to suffer, they didn't ask to be born of irresponsible parents. However, I would like to see the incentives to have more babies sharply cut off. We can't continue to reward bad behavior and then wonder why they keep doing it. The definition of INSANITY: "Doing the same thing over and over, then expecting a different result". How did our government get so crazy? This seems like simple common sense to me. Am I missing something?
 
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Good idea! I would never want the children to suffer, they didn't ask to be born of irresponsible parents. However, I would like to see the incentives to have more babies sharply cut off. We can't continue to reward bad behavior and then wonder why they keep doing it. The definition of INSANITY: "Doing the same thing over and over, then expecting a different result". How did our government get so crazy? This seems like simple common sense to me. Am I missing something?

We need to rewind this country back to the point where people stood on their own two feet. Their hands grasped a shovel, a rivit gun or a tool instead of stretching both hands out for their income. We have become a society of have and have nots instead of a society that pulls itself up by its own boot straps. This is all due to people with ideals that they are owed something or by those that feel they owe someone something. Only 1/3 of the country votes and they vote for those who can do them the most benefit instead of voting for those who will do right by the Constitution and in the countries best interest.

Im no Tea Party, Liberal, Left or Right advocate. I could careless if our president was male, female or green with pink polka dots, as long as they do the country right. A complete overhaul is in order, be it by voting or stronger measures. Our leaders are corrupt on all sides and it is a growing sentiment that change must come. No longer do the masses have a leadership in place that uses common sense, instead they use the common denominators...money, greed and power. Its time to make a stand, you are either for more of the same policies that have us where we are today or you are for making things better for everyone based on how well they do with minimal government intrusion, less restrictive policies and an attitude that we are the greatest nation in the world as long as we are allowed to have the freedoms we were founded on.
 
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Well said, Kikiriki. Even if we set aside all the debate about civil rights and de-criminalizing drugs and how we treat the poor in this country, we can look at it this way:

It will be a colossal waste of tax payers money.

The money spent will most likely line the pockets of our rat of a governor, who's wife has shares in the company that will do the testing.

No research has ever determined the need for this legislation, or that it is an effective means of reducing drug abuse. We will be spending MILLIONS of dollars to drug test people who have never used, and likely never will use, drugs - to recoup just a few thousand dollars in aid money. And are we going to provide drug treatment to those that test positive? Don't make me laugh. Those programs are being cut left and right by the same rat that is implementing this.

I've lost a job I love thanks to the budget cuts. I know some cuts needed to happen, and I'm okay with that. I'm a social worker in an urban high school, working with teen mothers to make sure they graduate and have a plan for supporting themselves and their children, as well as try to make them the best mothers they can be. Teach them how to raise children that will be non-violent and sucessful in school. We have numbers to support the effectiveness of my program, but that doesn't matter. Instead money that COULD HAVE saved my job is being spent on a worthless program that will not help anyone - except the rat. And it makes me SO VERY ANGRY. I demand better of my elected officials.

Furthermore, state laws tying welfare to drug testing have been challenged before and found unconstitutional. Why is the governor, when he campaigned to get people to work and reduce our debt, willing to risk tying up our states monies in legal wrangling over this grandstanding? The same goes for the random drug testing of all state employees regardless of job status. This will be challenged and more legal fees will add up while the state trys to defend something that has already been found to be unconstitutional. Why put us in this position?

That said, what is the next step after drug testing for recipients? Testing for tobacco?

And for whomever said, waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay back many pages ago that the state employees shouldn't be complaining, they got what they voted for, I can assure you, state employees were not voting for our governor. He made it clear from the get go that he'd be cutting the benefits we receive in lieu of a living wage once elected and no one in this depressed state with high unemployment was willing to vote for a pay cut. It was a very close race and unfortunately this guy won.
 
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Not side trac this thread,but the illinois department of corrections is not run very well.

Is ANYTHING govermental in IL run very well?? LOLOL...

(I am from IL!)

blame it on the governor!
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