Gallimycin label question - "replacement pullets"?

[Wynette]

I've been dealing with a sick pullet for weeks now - after posting to Doc Brown's site, he suggested I put her on Gallimycin. I ordered it & received it last night, mixed it up, ran right out & gave her 15 ccs of it via syringe, then several syringe fulls of feed using the Gallimycin water to mix it into a syringable slurry. Went back to the house, and read the back of the label:

"Do not use in chickens or turkeys producing eggs for human consumption."
"Do not use in replacement pullets over 16 weeks of age."

The "nots" were bolded....okay, this pullet is 22 weeks of age - doc Brown knew that, as I put it in the subject line of my post.....what is a "replacement pullet?" Also, I'm hoping this pullet will some day lay eggs for us, although with all the antibioitcs she's gotten, maybe her egg laying equipment has been compromised (?)

In any event, can anyone help me understand these 2 comments? Thanks so much!!

 

[Lazy J Farms Feed & Hay]

That is pretty self explanitory, don't use that medication in pullets intended for use a laying hens. Apparently the research used for the NADA indicated certain amounts of residues or lack of data in laying hens.

This is a good illustration of the need for a personal relationship between you and your veterinarian and the pitfalls of relying on the Internet for medical diagnoses.

Jim

 

[Wynette]

Not all of us can afford to take a chicken to the vet, Jim. Thus, we do what we can.

It's more important to me that this pullet get well and live a full life; if I'm unable to eat any eggs that she may lay, I'm fine with that. I just wanted to know.

 

[lauralou]

I would email Dr. Brown and ask him how long you need to wait before you can eat the eggs. Maybe there is only a "withdrawal period" before it is safe.

 

[Wynette]

Yup - I did post the question to Doc Brown, and am awaiting a response. I thought I might find someone on BYC that knew the answer quicker (he's a busy man!). Thanks!

 

[jmc]

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Very good point, Wynette. All should realize that.

'Replacement pullets' as I understand them, are pullets that will be used as laying hens, then 'replaced' after there prime has passed; then a new flock of 'replacement pullets are brought in.

In contradisctinction to the 'permanent flock' I might (or might not) keep.

Also, like many wormers and Terramycin soluble, etc. they should not be used on layers. But if Gallimycin and the like ARE so used eggs must be tossed until w/drawal period is over. Check the w/d period on Galli. I've seen as much as 30 days for Tyl. 50

But, as far as I've seen the NO to layers does not mean they'll be sterile or hindered in fertility (at least not due to the med--tho the disease may hinder fertility) just that you can't eat the eggs for a period of time after treatment. Businessmen especially don't want to do that--profits lost, y'know.

Hang in there,

Go to our little splash!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[keljonma]

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Wynette, this won't help much. I got this information from Dr Brown's website.... - keljonma

Presently there are NO WORMERS OR MEDICATIONS OTHER THAN AMPROL that can be given to chickens that are in egg production for human consumption and still eat the eggs. This is just a fact and there are no wormers except the Wazine Brand of Piperazine that have a label on them for Chickens in the first place. All wormers presently being used ( piperazine excepted ) are wormers that are used on other species such as hogs, and cattle.
Some people will tell you that it is two weeks or three weeks, this is just a persons opinion and not a scientific fact with any research data to back it up. The fact is there are no established withdrawal times for these type products. If you choose to eat the eggs that is up to you.​

 

[Wynette]

Thanks so much, Chickenmonk & Keljonma; thanks for the info., support, understanding, and encouragement!! THAT is what I love most about BYC!

 

[jmc]

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Wynette, this won't help much. I got this information from Dr Brown's website.... - keljonma

Presently there are NO WORMERS OR MEDICATIONS OTHER THAN AMPROL that can be given to chickens that are in egg production for human consumption and still eat the eggs. This is just a fact and there are no wormers except the Wazine Brand of Piperazine that have a label on them for Chickens in the first place. All wormers presently being used ( piperazine excepted ) are wormers that are used on other species such as hogs, and cattle.
Some people will tell you that it is two weeks or three weeks, this is just a persons opinion and not a scientific fact with any research data to back it up. The fact is there are no established withdrawal times for these type products. If you choose to eat the eggs that is up to you.
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Good heavens!!

So that means that ALL THESE PEOPLE on BYC who have ever used Tylan 50 on their chickens may be at risk in eating the eggs-- EVER.

If that is true, that is bad.

Keljonma, any chance you could reference your chilling news? No, I am not calling your veracity into question ( I'M the rookie here), but having a name to reference this might really help all of us.

So please do not misunderstand my 'query'. Your input in this is very important, i think. Hugely so, considering how many inject their birds.

 

[qhluvr34]

You can find it at Doc Brown's web site. Go to his web site, go to Featherfanciers.com, then to poultry forums, then to Doc, I need HELP! Look under "residue in drugs for chickens" 8/11/2008. He states it right there.