GM Foods and what they are doing to us...

[seedcorn]

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Growing for fuel instead of food has nothing to do with it?

Understand frustrations here. When corn for fuel started, corn was under $2/bushel and we were considered patriots for using "cheap" renewable sources for energy instead of "evil" arab crude. Now food prices are up and the same corn for fuel is now "evil".

People make up your minds, which is it????

 

[All about the EGG]

Probably the frustration lies with the impression that the government is paying farmers to grow for fuel. But the price is still outrageous. Just a thought...

 

[seedcorn]

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When corn goes past $1.98/bushel, there is no government payment to farmers.

Commodity prices are high. Most in ag believe it's because traders in charge of investments have artificially raised prices.

The bad part is that farmers are going to handle 3X more money for the same amount of money left over as when corn was $1.98 because:

land rent has been raised from 20-300%
fertilizers/chemicals are over 100% higher.
fuel--you know that story
equipment is sky rocketing

 

[KingsCalls]

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What has Monsanto done that is "shady"? What practices are unhealthy?

Simple solution to your problems......get the general public to pay for what they want. American labor can not work as cheap as slave labor, thus has to charge more, but patriotic Americans will not pay more for "American" made products. They talk the talk but won't walk the walk. Walmart use to advertise "only American products" but couldn't find the products and American public wanted (bought) cheap slave products.....

Monsanto.....moves chemical factories into countries with lax laws regarding chemicals. Dumps waste chemicals into local water supplies and does nothing to help clean up the messes they leave behind. Why don't we all support Monsanto, Wal-Mart, Exxon/Mobil(near the top of the list) and a few of the others............and just leave our kids and grand-kids to clean up after us!

 

[seedcorn]

Monsanto.....moves chemical factories into countries with lax laws regarding chemicals. Dumps waste chemicals into local water supplies and does nothing to help clean up the messes they leave behind. Why don't we all support Monsanto, Wal-Mart, Exxon/Mobil(near the top of the list) and a few of the others............and just leave our kids and grand-kids to clean up after us!

Monsanto's chem factories are in the USA. Name ONE case where they've dumped waste chemicals in the water. Monsanto has a fund (& staff) to pay for new wells and other clean-ups when it's not even their fault. Oil companies are a whole different situation, right now they are federally protected.

I'm all for cleaning up the environment, in fact I live as chem free as possible but WE are the problem. We pollute more than most (if not all) companies.

I'm not a fan of "big business" but let's deal w/facts.​

 

[Guitartists]

I can't even begin to express how mad this makes me! It's not the first I have heard of this.... and I have NEVER used chemicals, weed killers, fertilizers on my property for this very reason. I'm just so frellin angry that the US as a whole is so ignorant and money grubbing that they will continue to let big business tell them what is best! Other countries are wise to it... what is our malfunction????? I really wish I could move to another country... SO sick of all the BS here. When are the people going to take back the country from the hands of shiester politicians and big money businesses????? Time for a revolution!!!!!

<------------- Angrily awaiting the Revolution!!!!! Yeah, I know, I'm sure I was red flagged by the government a long time before this post! HA!!!!

 

[dlhunicorn]

@seedcorn:
I can't help but conclude frm your questions that you did not have the opportunity to view the French documentary (your questions are all addressed in that)
I am no tree hugger or wildly fanatic organic "back to the good ole days" type of person and I am usually not impressed by these orgs scare tactics but found the french documentary very helpful in understanding how ROUNDUP is damaging our environment and cant help but lean also towards the implication that a lot has been covered up on this score.

 

[Guitartists]

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Ditto..... I too am not an extremist or die-hard tree hugger..... but sometimes you find out things that just make you realize how far up our own holes our heads are stuck, as a country... and you realize that without the abilty to dislodge we will forever be stuck in this position and ourselves and our future generations will carry the load and suffer the consequences.

Cover-ups take place all the time. Wherever people stand to lose or gain millions, billions of dollars, dirty lowhanded tactics will be employed and will often (most apparently) prevail.

It's a shame, a real shame.

 

[All about the EGG]

I know there are a lot of factors. I am blaming no single person or company.

 

[tiki244]

Seedcorn some of your statements are just not true---

1) Monsanto has sued farmers and has won

2) as far as GMO crops at best they are controversial, which doesnt make it more "right" for one company or another to distribute to the publc

3)seedcorn wrote "Ag is already facing a world crisis for food"----------GMOs are not neccasarily the solution nor does it have to be,,,,,,,the rational of this statement is wrong,,,,,,,,[ eating local foods and fortifying the earth in natural ways,,,restoring populations that have had their farm societys destroyed because of western imperialism,,,,,,,and alternative life styles are solutions (just a sampling) ] The rest of the world doesnt live as wasteful as the USA,,,,

this is just a beginning to refute some of your statements