Sorry granny. Been trying to get caught up on this tread. I did see a couple that I think would be pretty easy. Thank you. I was also curious about that cookie can heater that you had. Any way you could post a picture sometimes is give me a link to see how it's made. I messed up and got plastic waterers. Should 've got stainless I suppose? Definitely gonna need a way to keep the water from freezing this winter. I'm still a greenhorn at this so if anyone has a cheap easy way,it would be greatly appreciated.? Y'all need to slow down chatting so I can catch up lol. I'm a slow reader thanks to the cerebral pawlsey. This could take awhile lol.