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It's a tough question with no answers.... How about Twist's yaks? Same or different? Don't hate on me. The question is the same.

Ancestors of those yaks have been domesticated in asia/china for thousands of years. Capture of exotics is bad and illegal in most place, so many of the animals are captive bred. Small gene pools make for for not so good individual animals. Worst pressure on the wild populations, after habitat destruction, is medicinal use and food. Rhino horns, tiger parts, and dried sea horses are for sale in China, with many other endangered critters. Japanese still hunt and kill whales in the arctic for "scientific research" but the whale meat all ends up in the grocery store. And gorilla and chimpanzee "bush meat" can still be found for sale in markets in sub saharan Africa. It's all under the table. World wide problems.
Well said and for the record I have no problem with Twist having yaks. Great discussion!
 
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Here's Bert. At least it's supposed to be...
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Maybe green or orange
 
Quote: It is a rich man's hobby....
It's a tough question with no answers.... How about Twist's yaks? Same or different? Don't hate on me. The question is the same.

Ancestors of those yaks have been domesticated in asia/china for thousands of years. Capture of exotics is bad and illegal in most place, so many of the animals are captive bred. Small gene pools make for for not so good individual animals. Worst pressure on the wild populations, after habitat destruction, is medicinal use and food. Rhino horns, tiger parts, and dried sea horses are for sale in China, with many other endangered critters. Japanese still hunt and kill whales in the arctic for "scientific research" but the whale meat all ends up in the grocery store. And gorilla and chimpanzee "bush meat" can still be found for sale in markets in sub saharan Africa. It's all under the table. World wide problems.
Well said and for the record I have no problem with Twist having yaks. Great discussion!
Interestingly most of these uses of animal parts, rhino horn, tiger penises etc. are so men can have extra prowess in bed. Sad.
 
Ancestors of those yaks have been domesticated in asia/china for thousands of years. Capture of exotics is bad and illegal in most place, so many of the animals are captive bred. Small gene pools make for for not so good individual animals. Worst pressure on the wild populations, after habitat destruction, is medicinal use and food. Rhino horns, tiger parts, and dried sea horses are for sale in China, with many other endangered critters. Japanese still hunt and kill whales in the arctic for "scientific research" but the whale meat all ends up in the grocery store. And gorilla and chimpanzee "bush meat" can still be found for sale in markets in sub saharan Africa. It's all under the table. World wide problems.

X 2 on all counts. There is a difference, imo, and even a difference in the farming of "exotic" meat like elk, deer, alligator, etc and the maintaining of those same animals and other exotics as pets, novelties, etc. The novelty factor is what leads to the dirty underworld breeding and/or capture practices. I also take issue with "refuge/sanctuary" facilities that breed and sell their animals - a big issue I have with a "local" place that claims to be a sanctuary but actively breeds it's exotic animals (specifically tigers). This isn't someone who is working to try to save the species or work with the organized efforts to best keep the gene pool diverse and work for the best interest of the animals - that I can support, it's the side of things that works towards profit at the expense of the animals (those that deal to the person who wants a monkey, tiger, gator, etc because it would be "so cool") that I can't support at all.
 
There are STILL people stranded on the PA Turnpike. They have been there for nearly 24 hours. State Troopers are providing food and water. Truckers are beginning to worry about running out of fuel trying to keep warm. I am so glad my son is holed up in Florida. He is keeping the rest of his truck fleet on the west coast.

If you guys are watching the news, when you see Westmoreland County, that is where I am.
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Megan and I are holed up in the hotel again. The streets are freezing and becoming very slick.
 
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There are STILL people stranded on the PA Turnpike. They have been there for nearly 24 hours. State Troopers are providing food and water. Truckers are beginning to worry about running out of fuel trying to keep warm. I am so glad my son is holed up in Florida. He is keeping the rest of his truck fleet on the west coast.

If you guys are watching the news, when you see Westmoreland County, that is where I am.
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Megan and I are holed up in the hotel again. The streets are freezing and becoming very slick.
I was worried about you, sent granny a message on FB to see if you were ok. Glad to see you posting. Finally got the roof clear to get sat signal, y'all stay safe
 
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