Great Depression of 2016

[hemet dennis]

If you ban free trade, you cannot expect people to buy from you. A country must exist by exporting either goods and or services. A massive company like Walmart might seem all powerful but it must be remembered it needs the vast market place of the US to survive. If customers don't like it's business practices, for example the low wages and conditions they must make Walmart know about that by voting with their feet. I know this can be very effective because some years ago, it was discovered that M and S, a very high profile store here and internationally, was receiving garments, made in Asia, in factories with appallingly poor and dangerous conditions and employing children in very unsafe environments. The press made a big issue of it and the public got behind them. M and S were held accountable for the way these Asian workers were being treated and was able to put sufficient pressure on their suppliers to conform with UK safety standards and the employment of children acts. Now they regularly inspect these factories. Never underestimate the power of the consumer in all this. Ethical businesses sell!!!

If Wal-Mart needs the "vast market place of the US to survive", how do you explain the stores they have opened all over the world ?

http://corporate.walmart.com/our-story/our-business/locations/

 

[hemet dennis]

Quote: Why am I not surprised that you wont see what you don't want to see ?

Are you upset that they deliver low prices (that the people asked and pay for) or by the way they deliver low prices ?

Are there stores that deliver higher quality and higher prices ?

 

[oldrooster]

Quote: Why am I not surprised that you wont see what you don't want to see ?

Are you upset that they deliver low prices (that the people asked and pay for) or by the way they deliver low prices ?

Are there stores that deliver higher quality and higher prices ?

Some people are just blind to the real truth because of the "truths" they believe. Like a president can do stuff that he can't.

 

[Dwkuska]

SNIP
Walmart is just playing the cards the government is giving them...
Havent we all been discussing how the government is no longer in our best interests? lol


Yes "Drinking the Cool-aid" is an insult an a bad one. If you dont understand the meaning of the term you should not use it. By accusing someone of "drinking the cool-aid" you are making a comparison of them to a group that:

I am not sure I know a bigger insult you can use on someone for holding an differing opinion than you...

I talked to a few coworkers today to see if anyone shares your view. The general consensus is you have stretched the meaning of that saying so far out of whack that it must not be a common term in your location. As far as insults go... I really hope that your being sarcastic about that being the biggest insult...

The US up until about 20 or 25 years ago had a odd system. We had free trade from state to state but not outside the US. It serves us well for the life of the country. Our whole economy was based off this system, as was all our regulations. We as a country started opening up our borders to free trade around 1990. Our country has fell apart. No one seems to know how to live in a global market. Everyone still wants to work a no skill job an afford a nice car, home an feed a family of 5. Fast food workers are pushing for $15 an hour for a job that only requires pushing buttons. That is the same pay that people that fix cars an rebuild engines make. Just south of our border they will do any job for half what our minimum wage is. The basic math does not work for people to get what they want an they want to blame it on businesses cause they dont understand the big picture.

I agree 100% with this entire paragraph especially the highlighted.

You my uneducated friend is the one drinking the Kool-aid the Walmart in the town south of me opened next door to it's self because they wanted a bigger building (not enough property for a super center) and they went from "city" to "county" and NEITHER the city or county EVER give them any tax break. And the town to my north did give them a tax break but refused to give them an occupancy permit their agreement on the conditions of the tax break was met, and the only reason the town offered them a break was because they WANTED wal-mart to move because of the traffic conditions at the intersection was not designed for such a biusness to be there so when wal mart asked they readly agreed with certain conditions, because it served both parties interests for them to move.

I dont think of myself as uneducated as I have an AA is business(though the us education doesnt mean much in today's world) Perphaps I overstated. I dont know where you live and I know in a lot of "rural" areas Walmart finds little if any. I have read in my searches of walmart being offered but never asking for tax breaks. However I find these instances to be the exception not the norm.However I dont think I am drinking the kool-aid as I have done alot of research. I am not bandwagon type. Do you have any websites or PDFs from those cities? I like to see proof as since we are not in the same geography it would be easy for either of us to make up our own facts.

Why am I not surprised that you wont see what you don't want to see ?

Are you upset that they deliver low prices (that the people asked and pay for) or by the way they deliver low prices ?

Are there stores that deliver higher quality and higher prices ?

Maybe you could show me what I dont want to see. As apparently after carefully reading it I didnt find anything to counter what I was reporting. I am not upset at all, I was simply adding my opinion that WalMart is bad for the US economy. As far as their prices... I have no quarrel with their prices per se. My issue is for them to offer those low prices US companies have to cannabalize themselves and some eventually go into bankruptcy because it is NOT possible to compete price wise when you have a society that allows trade with countries that what equates to slave labor forces.

Yes there are stores that deliver higher quality goods(sometimes they even come from china) and yes I can think of anyone whos prices are not higher then Walmarts. Some of those higher priced stores also support slavery in order to maximize profitablilty. I am not saying Walmart is the only bad company. I just used walmart as a referance since walmart is the largest retailer in the world and its profits equate to the 26th largest GDP. When your companies profits are higher than 170 countries total GDP..... I find it offensive that they disregard human rights, ignore labor laws, and refuse to pay livable wages.

Supercenter walmarts seem like a large responsibility. I am told a store manage makes around 40k/yr. Not a very good wage atleast where I live. Although since Rebel has worked at a walmart perphaps he would know the real salary of walmart store managers.

 

[Dwkuska]

Some people are just blind to the real truth because of the "truths" they believe. Like a president can do stuff that he can't.

wow just saw this link... talk about kool-aid drinkers... Videos like this just further my belief that the US education system must not be doing its job.

 

[rebelcowboysnb]

Like a president can do stuff that he can't.

I think that video cost me a few IQ points....

 

[rebelcowboysnb]

I talked to a few coworkers today to see if anyone shares your view. The general consensus is you have stretched the meaning of that saying so far out of whack that it must not be a common term in your location. As far as insults go... I really hope that your being sarcastic about that being the biggest insult...

Its a very common term an is always used as an insult. (comparing a persons IQ or actions to those in Jonestown) It is always used to talk about a person or group of people that are not around to hear it cause it is a big enough insult that saying it to someones face has a good chance of ending you missing teeth or worse.

 

[oldrooster]

Quote: Look it up yourself Martinsville and Bloomington Indiana.

 

[oldrooster]

BTW I have heard the comment about drinking the Kool aid since 1980 (it was used on the playground I remember and more than likely I had heard it before then because I knew the context and was not shocked at all that it started a fist fight and I was in kindergarten at the time) at least and it is ALWAYS used as a degrading term.

 

[Dwkuska]

BTW I have heard the comment about drinking the Kool aid since 1980 (it was used on the playground I remember and more than likely I had heard it before then because I knew the context and was not shocked at all that it started a fist fight and I was in kindergarten at the time) at least and it is ALWAYS used as a degrading term.

Its a very common term an is always used as an insult. (comparing a persons IQ or actions to those in Jonestown) It is always used to talk about a person or group of people that are not around to hear it cause it is a big enough insult that saying it to someones face has a good chance of ending you missing teeth or worse.

Hmm must just be different areas then. As far as fist fights... I dont see too many of those. Never had many folks willing to risk their life over a few words or a misunderstanding. But again we live in vastly different geographic areas. Where I am from flying a confederate flag or referring to yourself as confederate is labeling yourself a racist, a bigot, and your likely to treated poorly. But I know when I was in Texas people flew the confederate flag like it wasnt an issue. Of course in Texas I saw more blatant racism from all sides then I ever saw in my previous 33yrs of life. Yes I am aware where the saying came from and know the story. But as I told you it wasnt meant to be insulting(patronizing maybe). If you would like to take it as an insult that's your perogative in which case I am sure this forum has a /blist or Block option you are more then welcome to use. I personally dont get insulted as words are hollow and have no real bearing on my existence, so I guess I have real "thick skin". Cheers!