cmom, don't let go of that 410. The first time I mentioned one, I commented that my brother stole my dad's 410. It was my grandfather's. My dad learned to shoot with it. Although the first gun I ever shot was a 12 ga., I honed my ability with the 410. Dh mentioned that it was stupid to get upset over it, since a 410 isn't that great of a gun. I told him he was misinformed. He began doing some checking, and discovered why they were such a popular gun back in the day.