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Certainly nothing wrong with a .22 Mag and the .17 vs .22 is like the .270 vs the .30-06. It seems to come downto preference. Wind drift past 100 yards with the .17 is certainly an issue, but I prefer the extra accuracy at distance. I was shooting starlings off my Kestrel boxes last year at 130 yards with incredible consistency. Talk about a small target and fun shooting! For close range varmint control in a residential type environment rimfires are the way to go.
 
Yeah, sorta like comparing the .204 Ruger and the .223 Rem. A friend of mine came over last year to shoot at my 400 yard targets. He brought his .204 and .22-250. I used my .223. We both had good success, but the wind was definitely an issue with the .204. It's a great little caliber, but compared to the .223, I wouldn't have it. I buy once-fired brass at a bragain (compared to new brass prices) and at one time, I could reload ammo for my .223 almost as cheap as I could buy ammo for my .22 magnum. What with brass/powder/primer prices rising as they have, reloading is no longer as reasonable a hobby as it used to be.
 
I was just carrying on the current discussion. I get carried away when discussing this subject.....Is it uncouth to discuss a topic beyond the OP's original intent?
 
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Some consider it so, yes. I did some reseach along these lines awhile back and the usual question post is answered in 10 responses, or less. After that, it is wide open to be called "off topic," or as you put it, 'beyond the OP's original intent'.
Surprisingly, there is a huge stigma that goes with that, for whatever reason.

Personally, I reckon the off topic banter is often the more interesting. So go ahead - be uncouth!
 
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Hi all.
Nice call on the 22LR, 22 Magnum and 17 HMR. Probably the 3 easiest to learn, shoot and handle. 17 HMR is nothing more than a 22 WMR (magnum) necked down (the part that holds the actual projectile or bullet) from .224 or so to .17. Simple physics then, same amount of powder (accelerant) with a lighter bullet means faster on velocity. The other advantage I have found with the 17 is it is amazingly accurate. Terrific little caliber. If you use the 17 ake certain to sight it in with the 20 grain bullets not the 17 grain. The reason is greater penetration on fox or coyote size predators. With all that said, if you are fairly inexperienced with guns, any of those 3 should work fine if you realize the limitations on each.
While I own and shoot quite a few centerfire (bigger cartridges) rifles, those would not be where I would start someone new to shooting. More noise, more expense in both shells and rifle, and longer time frame to master. Any of the previous 3 guns should do fine to 50 to 75 yards on coyotes if that is where your problem lies.
Good luck!
Dewey
 
My property line is between 50 yards at the back an 80 yards at the sides from the house. I own several guns but the only ones I use are pistols(22lr an a 44 cap an ball), a 22LR long gun an a 12 gauge. The pistols because a gun is useless if its not on your hip when you need it. The 22LR long gun if for shooting from the house out past the chicken coop where accuracy is key. The 12gauge is for from the house out to the chicken coop.... An blowing bird houses apart but thats a different story.

If I could only have one farm gun it would be a lite 22LR auto long gun with a sling an a lazier pointer sight. That way I could put a thousand rounds threw it in a day for practically nothing the keep it loaded in waiting with good but still cheep rounds. Could carry it around when outside. An can stay on target an put as many rounds down range as I need as fast as I can pull the trigger.

As for bigger guns.... I don't need to reach out past 80 yards an I don't care if what I shoot dies right on the spot or runs off an dies two days later or even survives the shot. All I care about is when I shoot it stops its attack runs an ether does not want to come back or cant come back. For hunting I worry about being humane, for defending my farm from attack I just worry about what works best.
 
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I tried a laser sight, it didn't work for me. It works fine for paper targets, but small game was spooked by the red dot of light. (Squirrels & Rabbits). I learned "Kentucky windage" for drop and drift, the laser sight actually made it more difficult for me to hit the bull’s-eye.
 

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