Hands on hatching and help

[AmyLynn2374]

Is there an emoticon for cry? :'( I ordered 8 silkie-americauna eggs and today was hatching day. Out of 9 eggs received, only 1 made it and I just had to go in and rescue it after being internally pipped for over 24 hrs. Its chirp was getting weaker and I was worried. It was malpositioned with its beak over its right wing and it has cross beak. I think, despite the sellers wonderful packaging and all the other prior customers who raved about her eggs...I had a very unlucky shipment. 1 was clear and 2 scrambled at 7 days. 2 more stopped developing at about day 10. Another stopped developing some time after day 15, I estimate. 3 went into lockdown. 2 DIS yesterday (I did not eggtopsy. I was too disappointed) and last one is now likely not going to make it. Im so upset.

Sorry to hear that.

Yay!! Good luck on the hatch!!
I was going to ask for links on the auction threads but you guys are on top of it!!
And it ate half your reply which was to me! I do want to, they are getting older each day...maybe tomorrow! And that's crazy about the eggs because how would you measure air cells on the 28 dayers if you don't know which ones they are!!
I don't think you caused any of the issues. The blood clot was from the chick pipping in the pointy end. You didn't know what issues the chick had and you gave it a chance in case it was a perfectly healthy chick in that egg.
Sorry to hear that. I had once really wanted these eggs from Florida and there were lots of comments on the breeders FB page about people getting good hatches. They were a total bust for me....and I tried twice with only 2 chicks at the end to show for it. You never know how your package will be handled.

It doesn't want us to communicate! Lol. I think they are chicken eggs. There's one that has a slight similarity to Pyxis's pic, but I don't think more than one or two even come close to possibly being guineas.

 

[Featherlyadvice]

I had to euthanize my one and only chick. Its head wasn't developed right. It couldn't open one eye and it was cross beaked. It would't even walk.
The seller was off of this site and many users encouraged me to buy due to their great experiences with her shipped eggs. The eggs did seem to be protected very well, I had them delivered to post office, and she marked them "HONEY" in hopes they'd be well cared for.
I'm curious as to if this could have been the result of something I did. My previous hatch was with shipped eggs and after day 7, 4 out of 6 eggs developed to hatch. I was proud! This time I did the same thing except that I had a hatch going on day 5 of their set so, I opened the bator a bit more and they had high humidity at the beginning of their set period.
Any advice?
I want to set again and I don't. This kind of discouraged me. I have some local eggs I could get and I'm tempted, but I'm a little gun shy. Wish I knew exactly why it happened.

 

[AmyLynn2374]

I had to euthanize my one and only chick. Its head wasn't developed right. It couldn't open one eye and it was cross beaked. It would't even walk.
The seller was off of this site and many users encouraged me to buy due to their great experiences with her shipped eggs. The eggs did seem to be protected very well, I had them delivered to post office, and she marked them "HONEY" in hopes they'd be well cared for.
I'm curious as to if this could have been the result of something I did. My previous hatch was with shipped eggs and after day 7, 4 out of 6 eggs developed to hatch. I was proud! This time I did the same thing except that I had a hatch going on day 5 of their set so, I opened the bator a bit more and they had high humidity at the beginning of their set period.
Any advice?
I want to set again and I don't. This kind of discouraged me. I have some local eggs I could get and I'm tempted, but I'm a little gun shy. Wish I knew exactly why it happened.

Shipped eggs are a risk. You can do everything right and still have an awful hatch. Depends on the post offices and hubs they go through not to mention how the carriers handle. Usually, local eggs do much much better. If you know the source of the local eggs is good, I'd go for it.

 

[WVduckchick]

Crack one open tomorrow and check for a bullseye

Should take only day or two for them to be fertile - and now that they've mated they can be fertile for one mating for up to three weeks (or five apparently in the case of my super rooster).

A friend asked me about how long it lasts, and I thought of your super rooster!

I had to euthanize my one and only chick. Its head wasn't developed right. It couldn't open one eye and it was cross beaked. It would't even walk.
The seller was off of this site and many users encouraged me to buy due to their great experiences with her shipped eggs. The eggs did seem to be protected very well, I had them delivered to post office, and she marked them "HONEY" in hopes they'd be well cared for.
I'm curious as to if this could have been the result of something I did. My previous hatch was with shipped eggs and after day 7, 4 out of 6 eggs developed to hatch. I was proud! This time I did the same thing except that I had a hatch going on day 5 of their set so, I opened the bator a bit more and they had high humidity at the beginning of their set period.
Any advice?
I want to set again and I don't. This kind of discouraged me. I have some local eggs I could get and I'm tempted, but I'm a little gun shy. Wish I knew exactly why it happened.

So sorry! and x2 what Amy said. Do some local eggs and you will feel much better about it!

 

[RubyNala97]

I had to euthanize my one and only chick. Its head wasn't developed right. It couldn't open one eye and it was cross beaked. It would't even walk.
The seller was off of this site and many users encouraged me to buy due to their great experiences with her shipped eggs. The eggs did seem to be protected very well, I had them delivered to post office, and she marked them "HONEY" in hopes they'd be well cared for.
I'm curious as to if this could have been the result of something I did. My previous hatch was with shipped eggs and after day 7, 4 out of 6 eggs developed to hatch. I was proud! This time I did the same thing except that I had a hatch going on day 5 of their set so, I opened the bator a bit more and they had high humidity at the beginning of their set period.
Any advice?
I want to set again and I don't. This kind of discouraged me. I have some local eggs I could get and I'm tempted, but I'm a little gun shy. Wish I knew exactly why it happened.

Amy said exactly what I was going to say. Honestly, I'm sure the seller is a good seller. I've shipped to a few people here on byc, they had good hatches and the eggs did well through shipping. I traded eggs with another member on here, I packed the eggs the same, used fresh eggs to send and both of our batches arrived with detached air cells. So, it's obvious the route between the two of us is to blame, as she is also an amazing packer...best packing I've ever received but the eggs were still terribly damaged. You have no idea how the box was handled when it left her hands, if it sat in a hot truck for hours, what kind of X-ray machines or sorting machines it was exposed to, if a handler was having a bad day and was throwing boxes around...to many variables with shipping. Shipping does damage on a cellular level.

Definitely try the local eggs!! I'm serious, they will be a breeze compared to shipped and you'll get lots of fluffy babies to make you feel better.

 

[jenniferlamar70]

I had to euthanize my one and only chick. Its head wasn't developed right. It couldn't open one eye and it was cross beaked. It would't even walk.
The seller was off of this site and many users encouraged me to buy due to their great experiences with her shipped eggs. The eggs did seem to be protected very well, I had them delivered to post office, and she marked them "HONEY" in hopes they'd be well cared for.
I'm curious as to if this could have been the result of something I did. My previous hatch was with shipped eggs and after day 7, 4 out of 6 eggs developed to hatch. I was proud! This time I did the same thing except that I had a hatch going on day 5 of their set so, I opened the bator a bit more and they had high humidity at the beginning of their set period.
Any advice?
I want to set again and I don't. This kind of discouraged me. I have some local eggs I could get and I'm tempted, but I'm a little gun shy. Wish I knew exactly why it happened.

I was just feeling the way you are a short time ago. I had a really bad batch of eggs that left me feeling really down. These shipped eggs are a double edged sword and most likely it had to do with shipping. Next time ask the seller to put them in a live animal box marked live hatching eggs. It may be because they were marked honey. I know some say they aren't careful when marked eggs but that hasn't been my experience. Curled toes can be from to low a tempature. The beak issue can be from genetics from what I've read. The eyes I've had experience with and is due to low humidity. I had it happen from opening the incubator to much during hatch. When your doing assist this can't be helped though. This is all a learning experience and I don't think you should give up. It gets easier and with each hatch you learn more. Most likely this was genetic or from them being shipped. Next time make sure it's marked live hatching eggs. you should get this book I found also. It's helped me so much. It's great for more then just hatching as well..

 

[Pyxis]

I was just feeling the way you are a short time ago. I had a really bad batch of eggs that left me feeling really down. These shipped eggs are a double edged sword and most likely it had to do with shipping. Next time ask the seller to put them in a live animal box marked live hatching eggs. It may be because they were marked honey. I know some say they aren't careful when marked eggs but that hasn't been my experience. Curled toes can be from to low a tempature. The beak issue can be from genetics from what I've read. The eyes I've had experience with and is due to low humidity. I had it happen from opening the incubator to much during hatch. When your doing assist this can't be helped though. This is all a learning experience and I don't think you should give up. It gets easier and with each hatch you learn more. Most likely this was genetic or from them being shipped. Next time make sure it's marked live hatching eggs. you should get this book I found also. It's helped me so much. It's great for more then just hatching as well..

I actually wouldn't do that. The post office is crazy. I once marked a box "Fragile Live Embryos" as I always did and someone at some facility between me and their destination decided that that meant that there were live animals in the box. These eggs were already two days along in their journey and had only one day left to get to the person who bought them. Instead of letting this happen, the woman decided that the totally silent box must have live animals in it, apparently having no clue what an embryo was, and had them sent back to me because "live animals can't be sent that way, they have to sent a special way" and made the eggs take a two day trip back to me, as opposed to a one day trip to the receiver which, if they had been live animals, would have been better for the animals anyway.

I've also has post office people tell me when I receive my box marked 'Hatching Eggs' "I don't hear anything in there, they must be really quiet" and I've had to explain that they won't be hatching until 21 days in my incubator. So they really have no clue, and apparently putting the word "live" on there at all is asking for the box to get shipped back to you. It's really stupid, but now I only mark the boxes "Fragile Embryos" and leave the word "live" off. Never had another problem since I've been doing that.

 

[jenniferlamar70]

I actually wouldn't do that. The post office is crazy. I once marked a box "Fragile Live Embryos" as I always did and someone at some facility between me and their destination decided that that meant that there were live animals in the box. These eggs were already two days along in their journey and had only one day left to get to the person who bought them. Instead of letting this happen, the woman decided that the totally silent box must have live animals in it, apparently having no clue what an embryo was, and had them sent back to me because "live animals can't be sent that way, they have to sent a special way" and made the eggs take a two day trip back to me, as opposed to a one day trip to the receiver which, if they had been live animals, would have been better for the animals anyway.

I've also has post office people tell me when I receive my box marked 'Hatching Eggs' "I don't hear anything in there, they must be really quiet" and I've had to explain that they won't be hatching until 21 days in my incubator. So they really have no clue, and apparently putting the word "live" on there at all is asking for the box to get shipped back to you. It's really stupid, but now I only mark the boxes "Fragile Embryos" and leave the word "live" off. Never had another problem since I've been doing that.

That's so weird. All my eggs say live embryos and I've never had that problem. My postal workers have went he the extra mile to be careful with them. The last shipment I got the seller was 5 dollars short on postage and my postman paid it out of pocket because he had seen my live embryo boxes and brought it to me so I wouldn't have to wait another day. Also whenever he delivers now he always makes sure we know they have been delivered. He won't just leave them on the porch in the heat. I may have just got lucky though. We do live out in the country try also and lots of people probably purchase shipped eggs so maybe the post office is more familiar with them? I've never had a broken egg or damaged box though..

 

[AmyLynn2374]

I was just feeling the way you are a short time ago. I had a really bad batch of eggs that left me feeling really down. These shipped eggs are a double edged sword and most likely it had to do with shipping. Next time ask the seller to put them in a live animal box marked live hatching eggs. It may be because they were marked honey. I know some say they aren't careful when marked eggs but that hasn't been my experience. Curled toes can be from to low a tempature. The beak issue can be from genetics from what I've read. The eyes I've had experience with and is due to low humidity. I had it happen from opening the incubator to much during hatch. When your doing assist this can't be helped though. This is all a learning experience and I don't think you should give up. It gets easier and with each hatch you learn more. Most likely this was genetic or from them being shipped. Next time make sure it's marked live hatching eggs. you should get this book I found also. It's helped me so much. It's great for more then just hatching as well..

While you are right and each defect can be caused by incubation processes, when dealing with shipped eggs, defects can also be solely from the damage done at cellular levels and the jostling of the eggs. A good share of shippers I see will not write "Live" and many won't even post "fragile". Because of the theories and experiences that they've been treated worse. The box Ruby sent me she had marked "This side up" with an arrow. When I picked it up it was sitting on the counter at the P.O. On it's side. They totally disregarded any markings on the box.

I actually wouldn't do that. The post office is crazy. I once marked a box "Fragile Live Embryos" as I always did and someone at some facility between me and their destination decided that that meant that there were live animals in the box. These eggs were already two days along in their journey and had only one day left to get to the person who bought them. Instead of letting this happen, the woman decided that the totally silent box must have live animals in it, apparently having no clue what an embryo was, and had them sent back to me because "live animals can't be sent that way, they have to sent a special way" and made the eggs take a two day trip back to me, as opposed to a one day trip to the receiver which, if they had been live animals, would have been better for the animals anyway.

I've also has post office people tell me when I receive my box marked 'Hatching Eggs' "I don't hear anything in there, they must be really quiet" and I've had to explain that they won't be hatching until 21 days in my incubator. So they really have no clue, and apparently putting the word "live" on there at all is asking for the box to get shipped back to you. It's really stupid, but now I only mark the boxes "Fragile Embryos" and leave the word "live" off. Never had another problem since I've been doing that.

That is sad.

 

[AmyLynn2374]

That's so weird. All my eggs say live embryos and I've never had that problem. My postal workers have went he the extra mile to be careful with them. The last shipment I got the seller was 5 dollars short on postage and my postman paid it out of pocket because he had seen my live embryo boxes and brought it to me so I wouldn't have to wait another day. Also whenever he delivers now he always makes sure we know they have been delivered. He won't just leave them on the porch in the heat. I may have just got lucky though. We do live out in the country try also and lots of people probably purchase shipped eggs so maybe the post office is more familiar with them? I've never had a broken egg or damaged box though..

You're lucky you have a good mail person. Mine sucks! He'll squeeze boxes in my mail boxes that should never be forced in there. Or he'll hang it on the outside of the box from a rubber band. Anything but bring it the few yards up the driveway. We didn't even put my address on the box for fear that they'd give it to the carrier instead of holding at the P.O.