Hands on hatching and help

[caesargirl]

Random candling at 3:15 in the morning, because I'm up and why not, the eggs look good. The one under the pigeons look good too, of course I have to turn that one!

 

[AmyLynn2374]

Day 7 candling. A little spider looking thing inside the egg means a chick - little area surrounded by clear veins - and it's good? Um, yeah, so a bright line of red going all the way around the inside of the egg means that's not good, right? And an air cell that still looks like a bubble floating around all over the place in there is most likely also not good at this point, I'm assuming.

This ain't looking real good, folks. Too many blood rings, too many floaty air cells, too few with obvious veining, and some I can't see into well enough to tell much of anything. If this count holds until the end, and all of the ones I think look good at this point hatch, that'll be 9 out of 27. If I take out the ones that have veining to this point, but that I think the air cells will be too much to overcome, then that puts it down to 3. I haven't pulled any eggs because I know they can sometimes fool ya at this stage and I'm simply not experienced enough to make the call. Either that or I just plain don't WANT to make the call....haven't decided that yet either.

Grrrrrrr

Shipped eggs are such a pain! (And I haven't even started mine yet, lol) Sorry it's looking grim. I'd hold out hope for anything that started developing, cause I am like that.)

gotcha. Yep, it was an old egg hatchin hand that scolded me on the "lock down" & don't help rules .
But my slow hatcher last year I was suggested to put a thin layer of Vaseline around the pip sight. Then soon after boom baby was out.
Any who hope the call ducks make it out. ♡
I do like this thread a bunch. Have a good evening all.

And also, Some need the help, with calls it's an all new ball game, That's why it's called the CALL DUCK CHALLENGE, because they are Definitely a challenge to hatch. I can't tell you HOW MANY eggs, I went through before I got it right. OMG, SOOOOO MANY. and like I said before the 10 I lost with 80% humidity was part of that MANY. LOL

As far as opening the bator, well, I have a different theory on that. You see I did an experiment I opened the bator during lockdown, I opened it Three times a day as if I was still turning my eggs, I didn't raise the humidity it stayed 50-55 from day ONE to hatching day. Guess what, wasn't anything different. Still had a good hatching, nothing shrinked wrapped, nothing got sticky, nothing struggled.

Lockdown was Created by us for the SOLE purpose of reminding us DON"T TOUCH. is it really necessary well that's debatable.

I think there are a lot of things we do that aren't "necessary". Look at how many people that have had hatches start before they went into lockdown and have had chicks hatch in 35-40% humidity. I don't believe the majority of people who think they've "shrink wrapped" a chick has actually shrink wrapped either. I honestly don't think people truely understand what that is and I think when they eggtopsy and see that membrane around the chick they think OMG he's shrinkwrapped, when in reality the membrane really is around the chick like that. One of the reasons chicks placement during hatch is head under wing is because that wing pushes up and holds the inner membrane away from the chick to give it a little room. It does look like what we would imagine as "shrink wrapped", but it really isn't. I think it's a reason people give their failed hatches because they need an answer as to why the chicks didn't make it and can't find any other. I've NEVER had a pipper/zipper die. I've never had a chick shrink wrap from opening the bator, (I don't belive shrink wrapping can happen from a few seconds of dry air.) I do believe that the membrane around the pips can become dry and stick to the chick from air drying any fluid and the moist membrane. I would NEVER recommend a hands on hatcher, especially one like myself to be "hands on" w/out the higher humidity though as a precaution. It's not a matter of just opening the bator a couple times. I am literally frequently opening my bator during hatch and it's a good precaution to have higher humidity with my habits. And NO I have no intention to change my hatching style. I have awesome hatches and this is what is comfort to me and I see no need to change it for someone else's comfort. Could I be in the bator less, yes I could. DO I need to start an assit at 24 hours, no, but then again, I've never lost a chick after pip.... that's why we really wanted to do this thread, that's why I am such a pusher of "Doing what is right and comfortable for you, regardless of others. I see so many hatchers push methods as the only way to do it, or do it like this or else and it makes me sooo mad. I see people missing out on the true experience of hatching because they are afraid to candle an egg because someone has warned them off candling. People who have never seen an internal pip because OMG that's after "lockdown". How do you learn if you don't know what you are looking at? I am so glad to be hands on person and get the most from my hatches.

I have my own thoughts on FB, LOL, I know this one person contacted me for help, everyone told her, CULL the baby, he's not going to make it any way. Good lord can't remember exactly why the people on FB told her to cull it. but it had something to do with it not fully absorbed. Well I gave her some tips on how to help it. And the darn thing finally absorbed and perked up. She went back on the forum and Bragged to everyone, "for those that wanted him dead, SHAME ON YOU". she had a pic of him under neath. LOL It was a great in your face moment. LOL

I love in your face moments, I have to admit. I get flack for being the "bleeding heart" that will give a chick every opportunity before I give up on it.

Random candling at 3:15 in the morning, because I'm up and why not, the eggs look good. The one under the pigeons look good too, of course I have to turn that one!

The pigeon won't turn for you?? LOL

I'm hoping to get my eggs today from @RubyNala97 . The tracking says tomorrow, but they hit Syracuse (which is two hours from me) last night at 5, so there's no reason they shouldn't be here today that I can see. So hopefully I'll be able to set. I am planning on a midnight setting...woohoo!!! Can't wait to candle and check out the air cells.

 

[WVduckchick]

Woke up this morning to find 3 had externally pipped and one of them were dead made s hole in the other!

Random candling at 3:15 in the morning, because I'm up and why not, the eggs look good. The one under the pigeons look good too, of course I have to turn that one!

 

[AmyLynn2374]

MY EGGS ARE IN!!!!!

Post Office just called to let me know they are there!!!

 

[caesargirl]

MY EGGS ARE IN!!!!!   e Post Office just called to let me know they are there!!!

What kind of eggs??

 

[AmyLynn2374]

What kind of eggs??

Bearded silkies from @RubyNala97 She has beautiful birds and she has paints and partridge colored.

Picked them up. Got them unpacked. (Wonderful packing job.) Candled and they are resting. I plan to set them tonight at midnight. This will be my FIRST time hatching shipped eggs, so new experience for me.

 

[caesargirl]

Bearded silkies from @RubyNala97
  She has beautiful birds and she has paints and partridge colored. 

Picked them up. Got them unpacked. (Wonderful packing job.) Candled and they are resting. I plan to set them tonight at midnight. This will be my FIRST time hatching shipped eggs, so new experience for me.

I guess that means you'll be keeping a close eye on them!!!
I'm adding 6 refrigerated eggs this afternoon. Saxony. What's a hatch if it ain't staggered?!?

 

[EmilyB86]

One

So you have three or Four left??

one has hatched!!!! Got 3 others but 2 externally pipped on their own! X

 

[AmyLynn2374]

I guess that means you'll be keeping a close eye on them!!!
I'm adding 6 refrigerated eggs this afternoon. Saxony. What's a hatch if it ain't staggered?!?

I'm going to try to limit myself to candling days 4/7/14/18 with the shipped. But I am adding my own Spitzhauben and ee/nn eggs as well so I have something to meddle with while trying to keep my patties off the shipped eggs...lol

 

[AmyLynn2374]

One
one has hatched!!!! Got 3 others but 2 externally pipped on their own! X