Hatching Eggs / Paypal CHAT Thread

[BHep]

Okay, so I just found this. I am one of the people whose birds are in molt and/or broody/moody right now and I can't offer any eggs. Instead, I offered PP. I PM'ed the OP before claiming/offering and inquired about proper protocol and how much would be acceptable, since I've never done a swap before. That is what my offer (which was quite quickly snatched up, by the way) reflected. I didn't mean to be insulting or low-balling, or anything else. I just wanted some eggs and offered the higher of "normal" PP offers I was told.

I do think it is strange that people are mentioning the cost of sending twelve eggs, on top of the value of such eggs when the swap is for six eggs. Mailing twelve or six eggs is not the same cost either in packing materials nor in postage.

People are not required to accept offers. If a PayPal offer ever stalled the chain, I could understand the level of concern. However, it seems to me in scrolling through that the PayPal offers, whether $10 or $20, never stalled the thread out. Some people want the PayPal money for a higher goal, or for savings, or whatever else. If it's worth it to the person accepting who then offers eggs that are wanted by someone else, what is the problem? The people accepting lower PP offers have their reasons, and the chain goes on.

Correct me if I am wrong, but the point of the Swapping here is not an equal exchange of goods, it's a mass exchange of eggs(or PP funds) to help each other bring in new breeds, lines, supplies, etc. to our flocks. If it were about the value of the eggs offered, it wouldn't be a minimum 6 eggs across the board. It would probably be more like "$10 worth of eggs from a pure flock" or something similar. If you feel that you are being insulted by an offer of the person who claims your eggs, by all means don't claim their offer! But try to realize that it's not personal, and some of us are very new to this. I'm sure no one means to be disrespectful to any of you or your fine birds/eggs.

If you feel like the Swap isn't doing justice to your eggs in counter-offers, perhaps you should just sell your eggs for your desired price point instead of Swapping. No one sets out on a Swap thread to be rude to you, and if I claim your eggs and offer too little PayPal in your eyes, it's not that I'm saying I think your eggs PLUS shipping are only worth that much. I'm just saying I admire what you have in your flock and this is what I've got in the budget to offer in return. I would hope that those of you who have worked very hard on your chosen breed(s) would see someone claiming your eggs not as an insult, but as a compliment of your birds that we want some of their offspring.

Again, I'm very new at these, and I could be way off base, but I certainly don't mean to insult anyone when I offer PP instead of eggs.

I completely agree. I have a lot invested in my Tolbunts and Legbars. I sell some here and there but to me, swapping is way more fun. I can get new breeds for my layer flock and offer something others would like to have. My birds are a hobby and I believe hobbies should be enjoyed. I'm thrilled to find the different swaps and looking forward to more. I'm not offended in the least on the offers. I just can't jump on some since I enjoy sleeping in my house and don't wish to move in with my chickens. I do believe side swaps should be kept private and in no way should influence the current offer.

Oh and thank you so much gamebirdsonly for the beautiful bantam olive eggs!!! I can't wait to see these babies hatch!

GREAT POST!

X2

Well said...both of you !

 

[coffeekittie]

Okay, so I just found this. I am one of the people whose birds are in molt and/or broody/moody right now and I can't offer any eggs. Instead, I offered PP. I PM'ed the OP before claiming/offering and inquired about proper protocol and how much would be acceptable, since I've never done a swap before. That is what my offer (which was quite quickly snatched up, by the way) reflected. I didn't mean to be insulting or low-balling, or anything else. I just wanted some eggs and offered the higher of "normal" PP offers I was told.

I do think it is strange that people are mentioning the cost of sending twelve eggs, on top of the value of such eggs when the swap is for six eggs. Mailing twelve or six eggs is not the same cost either in packing materials nor in postage.

People are not required to accept offers. If a PayPal offer ever stalled the chain, I could understand the level of concern. However, it seems to me in scrolling through that the PayPal offers, whether $10 or $20, never stalled the thread out. Some people want the PayPal money for a higher goal, or for savings, or whatever else. If it's worth it to the person accepting who then offers eggs that are wanted by someone else, what is the problem? The people accepting lower PP offers have their reasons, and the chain goes on.

Correct me if I am wrong, but the point of the Swapping here is not an equal exchange of goods, it's a mass exchange of eggs(or PP funds) to help each other bring in new breeds, lines, supplies, etc. to our flocks. If it were about the value of the eggs offered, it wouldn't be a minimum 6 eggs across the board. It would probably be more like "$10 worth of eggs from a pure flock" or something similar. If you feel that you are being insulted by an offer of the person who claims your eggs, by all means don't claim their offer! But try to realize that it's not personal, and some of us are very new to this. I'm sure no one means to be disrespectful to any of you or your fine birds/eggs.

If you feel like the Swap isn't doing justice to your eggs in counter-offers, perhaps you should just sell your eggs for your desired price point instead of Swapping. No one sets out on a Swap thread to be rude to you, and if I claim your eggs and offer too little PayPal in your eyes, it's not that I'm saying I think your eggs PLUS shipping are only worth that much. I'm just saying I admire what you have in your flock and this is what I've got in the budget to offer in return. I would hope that those of you who have worked very hard on your chosen breed(s) would see someone claiming your eggs not as an insult, but as a compliment of your birds that we want some of their offspring.

Again, I'm very new at these, and I could be way off base, but I certainly don't mean to insult anyone when I offer PP instead of eggs.

Wow, you said it so well. I sometimes can pull a little more out of my pocket if it's something I need for my future plans, but honestly? I am knee-deep in expensive projects and make minimum wage doing something I love. I truly respect all of you who are willing to go to the trouble of carefully gathering, packing and selling your hen's fruit. One of my future plans is to sell/swap my own (hopefully SQ) eggs to whomever wants them, no matter what they can afford, in order to further this terrific poultry way of life.

Please, never be offended - that is very likely NOT the intention.

 

[mystdogs]

Wow, you said it so well. I sometimes can pull a little more out of my pocket if it's something I need for my future plans, but honestly? I am knee-deep in expensive projects and make minimum wage doing something I love. I truly respect all of you who are willing to go to the trouble of carefully gathering, packing and selling your hen's fruit. One of my future plans is to sell/swap my own (hopefully SQ) eggs to whomever wants them, no matter what they can afford, in order to further this terrific poultry way of life.

Please, never be offended - that is very likely NOT the intention.

Sometimes people are 'animal rich' and 'money poor'. There have been times I was thankful for that change at the bottom of my purse to put a gallon of gas in the vehicle to make it to payday. While I can only offer PP at this time in auctions, once my birds start laying I can offer some nice eggs from great breeders in the spirit of the swap. People should remember that the person that could only afford to send the $15 PP may be the person that offers that rare breed/color eggs you have been dying to add to your flock. I'm glad I was able to win a swap and have no problems with waiting until spring for my eggs to arrive. I'm just upset that the PP issue on the SQ egg swap caused me to hold off on nabbing the seramas that I wanted, but the bickering became too off putting and my silkies eggs I paid a lot of money for arrived and I couldn't take the swap at that point. The eggs would have arrived too late then. Things happen for a reason though, so maybe I will find a pair of seramas to purchase instead

 

[crazypetlady]

Sometimes people are 'animal rich' and 'money poor'. There have been times I was thankful for that change at the bottom of my purse to put a gallon of gas in the vehicle to make it to payday. While I can only offer PP at this time in auctions, once my birds start laying I can offer some nice eggs from great breeders in the spirit of the swap. People should remember that the person that could only afford to send the $15 PP may be the person that offers that rare breed/color eggs you have been dying to add to your flock. I'm glad I was able to win a swap and have no problems with waiting until spring for my eggs to arrive. I'm just upset that the PP issue on the SQ egg swap caused me to hold off on nabbing the seramas that I wanted, but the bickering became too off putting and my silkies eggs I paid a lot of money for arrived and I couldn't take the swap at that point. The eggs would have arrived too late then. Things happen for a reason though, so maybe I will find a pair of seramas to purchase instead

I just sold a trio of Serama today for $100 including shipping.

I have eggs up on the SQ swap if you want to clim them. You can offer PayPal there.

 

[mystdogs]

I just sold a trio of Serama today for $100 including shipping.
I have eggs up on the SQ swap if you want to clim them. You can offer PayPal there.

I know I was

wishing I had another bator, but I have 32 silkie eggs cooking so nothing can go in until the spring now. I did find a local breeder that has some young pairs available, but I'm waiting on photos to see if I want to drive out and pick some up Me and my crazy chicken habit

 

[coldupnorth]

Wanted to say Thank You! to crazypetlady for the Amer. Eggs and to BHep for the SFH eggs through this swap. Beth - thanks for the extra surprise eggs in there too! These will be the last eggs into my incubator until next year (I promise?)

 

[BHep]

Wanted to say Thank You! to crazypetlady for the Amer. Eggs and to BHep for the SFH eggs through this swap. Beth - thanks for the extra surprise eggs in there too! These will be the last eggs into my incubator until next year (I promise?)

Your Welcome !

 

[kraftyladies]

Thank you to Beth, my silkie/sizzle eggs going in the bator as soon as get done typing this.

 

[9gerianMile]

Oops, forgot to post in here, I got my Silkie eggs from Crazypetlady Thanks! I'll let you know how it goes!

 

[junkinstuff]

Received my Legbars from CJWaldon THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I swear one is as big as an Emu egg!