hatching geese eggs

[pete55]

CrackingUp has provided a good link. The principle is to keep the air where it should be at the top of the egg and therefore incubate upright. After a few days you should turn them by slight tilting side to side. In the second week the secondary allantoic membrane grows out to line the inner surface of the egg and in effect re-seals the air cell. After 2 weeks simply lay them on their sides and follow a normal turning regime.

Shipped eggs DO hatch but they require more individual care to overcome the problems caused by shipping. Keep an eye on your temperture and aim for an average of 37.2C. If you get readings of between 37.0 and 37.4 they will be fine so try to leave the temperature alone.

Pete

 

[pete55]

Hi Maria

Sorry to hear about the night's events and that poor turkey!!!

First the Turkey. Sounds like the Badger has 'ripped' the flesh with the strong claws of its front legs. I hope you find that its a more simple slash wound rather than ripped. The flesh thats hanging may already be drying out and dying (necrotic). The raw wound needs spraying with Dry Iodine Powder. Buy at the Pharmacy as an aerosol and simply hold the bird still and spray over the entire wound. It'll help potential infection and to dry it. If its a deep wound then a Vet may be able to close it with stiches. However it's probably in shock and needs a very quiet and warm area to recover - an infra red lamp would be ideal. Then dont worry about food but try to get the turkey to drink to overcome fluid loss.

With your other egg I need more details - how is it trying to internally pip????

Can you see or hear anything?

Pete

 

[mtacagni]

Sprout (the turkey), is alive, it's the flesh over her left breast that has been torn off, she has a few teeth puncture wounds in it as well, I've got saline solution which I have flushed it with (the flesh is hanging down in a long roll now). I've made her a kind of cover out of a clean tea towel to cover her breast and it's tied around her back and under her wings. She is standing and stronger than I expected her to be, she now warm and dry and in the dark with food and water, I'll get some of that iodine powder as soon as I can, it sounds good stuff. Thanks for helping Sprout!

Now the egg, were it has dipped the shadowing is just by the dip, it keeps going up and down as if it's trying to break through, no sounds at all yet.

 

[pete55]

Well at least Sprout seems stable now.

Now the egg. Is the shadow at the lowest point of the air cell and how long has it been moving up and down? It sounds almost like its breathing under the membrane or about to break through???

 

[mtacagni]

No, the shadow is at the highest point of the air cell (with the egg standing on the pointed end the shadow is at the top of the air cell, the shadow is just moving up and down by a few mil and has been since Thursday.

 

[pete55]

Dont worry we're getting there

Simplified graphics but which one of the images does the egg look like? I suspect it is the first one

Small shadows confined to the back (highest point) of the air cell - the gosling is starting to draw its head up towards the air cell.

The shadows then start to extend down the sides of the air cell - the gosling is gradually easing its head into the hatching position.

The shadows extend to the front (lowest point) of the air cell and increase in size. Movement can be seen and sometimes the beak is obvious. The gosling's head is now in position and ready to pierce the air cell membrane to achieve internal pipping.

The shadows at the lowest point and the beak in the air cell. The regular clicking noise can be faintly heard and the gosling has internally pipped.

Hope this helps


Pete

 

[mtacagni]

Yes it's the first graphic still.

 

[pete55]

Thats fine. The movement is the gosling twitching and squirming. Within anytime to 48 hours the shadows will extend to the front as the gosling moves into position. DO NOT help at this stage as the head is between the legs, the blood vessels are very active and a large part of the yolk sac is un-absorbed!

I estimate this egg to be about 25 to 27 days incubation, if its longer then it may be your temps have been slightly lower or the egg in a cold spot. Also your Toulouse lines may take a day or so longer. I have Greys that hatch at 28 days whereas the buffs take 29 or 30.

What day is the egg on now exactly?

Pete

 

[mtacagni]

Its on day 30, the other eggs pipped on day 28?

 

[pete55]

It may be anytime then but this gosling should be starting to shadow at the front shortly. You've got to sometimes hold the candler at different angles to see the shadows and be holding the egg in a horizontal position. Are you certain you cannot hear a very faint regular tapping noise when you hold the blunt end of the egg to your ear???

Also did the egg's air cell dip down and start to shadow at the sametime as the other eggs which hatched? Finally what are the incubation conditions?

Pete