Hatching problem - please help!

[Dinosaur Village Keeper]

Are you able to open the lid a little to get your hand in and a Q tip with oil on it yo rub on that area ?
I have a little giant bator and I’m able to lift the lid just enough for my hand to get in

I could do that. Is there a membrane in the air sac part too? She is pushing on the place above where it is dried and I know that part is the air cell because of my marks.

 

[Dinosaur Village Keeper]

Are you able to open the lid a little to get your hand in and a Q tip with oil on it yo rub on that area ?
I have a little giant bator and I’m able to lift the lid just enough for my hand to get in

I put the coconut oil on it, but I can’t tell if I put enough. It doesn’t look any different.

 

[Miss Lydia]

I don't think it will change the color of the membrane just helps to soften it up to make it easier for the gosling to push through.

 

[Goosebaby]

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[FoodFreedomNow]

The browning part is the "outer" membrane, which is very tough. A change in color like that is usually just due to exposure to air. The only concern I would have since the gosling has attempted an external pip is whether or not she has completely breached the outer membrane and has access to air. In these cases, I take the egg out (carefully and quickly) and check it. If the gosling has not managed to break all the way through the membrane, I make a small "safety hole" in it. This needs to be done carefully to ensure that the gosling is not injured and just a small hole is made so that the gosling can continue working on hatching with a reduced risk of running out of air inside. Then the egg goes back in the incubator (increase humidity if it doesn't rebound to optimal levels fairly quickly after closing the incubator).

It's not unusual for a gosling to take 24+ hours to go from external pip to hatch. At this point, it looks like it hasn't even been 24 hours, so the gosling is likely still getting into hatching position, absorbing yolk, and its blood vessels are drying up. It's important that all of these processes be given sufficient time to occur - premature assistance should be avoided.

I typically reserve using coconut oil for when active assistance is occurring (after it's clear that the gosling has run into trouble) and put it on the inner membrane, which can stick or shrink onto the hatchling. The inner membrane is the one that has the blood vessels running throughout it, and it is usually somewhat moist and sticky. This inner membrane will turn white, and the oil can help visualize the status of the blood vessels as well as keeping the membrane from gluing to the gosling.

If you haven't already, I recommend you read Pyxis's Guide to Assisted Hatching so that you can make an informed decision about when it's appropriate to intervene and how to best do so. Best of luck!

 

[Miss Lydia]

@Dinosaur Village Keeper hows the gosling doing?

 

[Dinosaur Village Keeper]

@Dinosaur Village Keeper hows the gosling doing?

She is hanging in there still, probably better than me. I feel like I’m in a terrible predicament at this stage. I don’t know how to put a video, so I will attempt a pic of where we are. I don’t think a safety hole would have helped because once we peeled things back, she had never gotten pipped into the air sac at all, as I had suspected, she had missed it by a hair.

The membrane around her head is dried, even though I continue to put coconut oil on it. She is still making chewing motions with her mouth and chirping. I wish you lived near me Miss Lydia!

Edited due to lots of panic typos…

 

[New duck mommy 2021]

So:saz

I put the coconut oil on it, but I can’t tell if I put enough. It doesn’t look any different.

She is hanging in there still, probably better than me. I feel like I’m in a terrible predicament at this stage. I don’t know how to put a video, so I will attempt a pic of where we are. I don’t think a safety hole would have helped because once we peeled things back, she had never gotten pipped into the air sac at all, as I had suspected, she had missed it by a hair.

The membrane around her head is dried, even though I continue to put coconut oil on it. She is still making chewing motions with her mouth and chirping. I wish you lived near me Miss Lydia!
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Use Vaseline to coat the membrane
I find it last much longer then the oil
I only use oil to look for veins but never to keep things moist

 

[Miss Lydia]

I sure wouldn't be much help I already told you wrong about the coconut oil

 

[FoodFreedomNow]

She is hanging in there still, probably better than me. I feel like I’m in a terrible predicament at this stage. I don’t know how to put a video, so I will attempt a pic of where we are. I don’t think a safety hole would have helped because once we peeled things back, she had never gotten pipped into the air sac at all, as I had suspected, she had missed it by a hair.

The membrane around her head is dried, even though I continue to put coconut oil on it. She is still making chewing motions with her mouth and chirping. I wish you lived near me Miss Lydia!
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Edited due to lots of panic typos…

If she's yawning/chewing, she's likely absorbing her yolk.