heart broken... coyote... my final say

[The Yakima Kid]

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In most states it is illegal to transport and release problem wildlife.

A true story from back in the dark ages when the practice was still legal.

My friend, Doc Ed, was an avid hunter and had a small farm at Peoria, Oregon. He also had a problem raccoon that was getting into everything and beating up on his small hunting Spaniel that would bravely go out and try to confront this bull coon. He also threw great parties.

My friend Eric, lived on his family farm out in Crescent Valley, on the other side of the Willamette, in fact clear on the other side of Corvallis. He also had a problem raccoon.

One weekend when Doc Ed had a party I decided to bring Eric since Eric was also fond of hunting and I figured he and Doc Ed would get along great.

Doc Ed and Eric got to talking. They wound up discussing their raccoon problem. It seems both were in the habit of trapping and transporting problem raccoons. They got into a discussion on trapping methods and finally talked about where they dumped their problem raccoons.

It seems that Eric dumped his not far from Doc Ed's place; and Doc Ed drove out to Crescent Valley.

Next time Doc Ed had a problem coon he marked it with Day-Glo orange spray paint before dumping it. A week later Eric found a bull coon with a big bright orange patch on it in his trap.

It seemed they'd been providing round trips for raccoons between their two places.

After that I think they both took to transporting them to the afterlife.

 

[mmaddie's mom]

To each his own...

Live and let live...

Agree to disagree...

 

[EweSheep]

Coyotes are a problem where I used to live but we had our Collies that they kept a wide berth. Dad heard them south of the farm where the railroad runs southwest. There was a bridge there that they den or live around that area. We do hear them howl every night. My friend Laura lives on Brimfield Oakwood blacktop said she hears them but they have not come around her free ranged chickens yet. She has horses.

Can you have horses or better yet, a llama, a burro or mini mule?????? It does not take much for them to deter them.

If your backyard is open and country, you can shoot them.

Coyotes have been really bad around south of us in rural towns including Champaign, animal controls are now resorting to shooting them because they are closer to human habitats and endangering pets and children. They are hungry. Foxes have been seen more often too.

 

[woodmort]

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That's interesting since coyotes generally hunt and eliminate foxes. Either there aren't as many coyotes as you think or there are a heck of a lot of foxes. I suspect the former since a couple of coyotes can make a awful lot of noise.

 

[EweSheep]

Well we heard about five different sounding howls in union one night. Three of them sounded young, higher pitches so I am guessing pups.

All we saw are grey foxes, usually seen at dusk, running in the opposite direction from the coyotes. It was in the fall when I saw them. No, they were not together but here and there in different areas, within two miles from each other.

 

[Frosty]

Transporting wildlife... can you guarantee that the critter doesn't have any diseases (including rabies where symptoms could take up to a year to show up)? If it has anything, you just helped it spread. Add to that the fact that you are dumping it somewhere where not only does it not know the area (feed, water, shelter), you probably also dumped it into another critters territory where it will be attacked. Add to that the fact that you could be passing your problem to somebody else.

I don't know how good of a detterent horses are? We found the one trying to hunker down in a straw bale because while out feeding last winter I noticed that the horses were running around and kept staring out towards the pasture. I looked in the direction that they were staring and saw it out there. When DH and I walked out, it ran off about 20 feet and stopped to stare back at us. I suspect that it may have been a coydog, they aren't as bashful as pure coyotes are...

 

[Frosty]

Some interesting info on coyote/fox interactions: http://www.npwrc.usgs.gov/resource/mammals/cfoxint/index.htm

I found it the other night when DH heard coyotes howling, but I know that we have foxes around.

 

[Orchid]

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I have one mare that is a great coyote deterrent - she sees, she snorts, and the chase is on - and if she caught one I have no doubt she'd stomp it right into the ground. She's great with my dogs but she despises coyotes!

 

[aprophet]

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That's interesting since coyotes generally hunt and eliminate foxes. Either there aren't as many coyotes as you think or there are a heck of a lot of foxes. I suspect the former since a couple of coyotes can make a awful lot of noise.

yote will push red fox out of an area but with a grey foxes ability to climb a tree they have a hard time pushing them out the greys here are more in town the yotes are out on the edge of the burbs and the sticks

I try hard not to catch yotes but the greys and the yotes territory overlaps a little and eventually some one wants them trapped

 

[The Yakima Kid]

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Old Pointy Nose isn't bashful at all anymore in some parts of the country. The head of the division where I formerly worked was concerned for his family's safety after an incident in his suburban backyard. His elementary school age daughter was holding a cat in her lap in the backyard when a coyote just walked up and took it. He ran out when he heard her scream and started to follow the coyote. The coyote didn't even run, just stayed a little ahead of him, finally stopped, turned around with a mouth full of dead cat, stood his ground, and looked at him.

I don't know about horses, but mules and donkeys can be very good. The problem with mules is sometimes they also take exception to goats, sheep, and other smaller stock.

You're right about the issues involved in transporting wildlife - that is why it is now illegal in many states. Don't even transport a squirrel.