Helping Chicks Hatch? Information why or why not

Isn't a rule. It's an opinion.

Nobody here is bashing helping. What I object to is your wording (that you still have there, BTW) that encourages just pulling open shells of perfectly fine birds. Assisting is an art that bungling with is all too easy.
I don't care if it's a rule or opinion! Rumor spreads and beginners will follow it.
 
Isn't a rule. It's an opinion.

Nobody here is bashing helping. What I object to is your wording (that you still have there, BTW) that encourages just pulling open shells of perfectly fine birds. Assisting is an art that bungling with is all too easy.
I understand the quick thought of helping to be disasterous but don't single out a single comment. There's research to be done and each hatch is different! It's all my posts in this thread, replies, video, comments together that are my full representation. I was expecting issues to come up when I posted this thread.
 
What I have said cannot advise or convince someone to stop a perfect chick from hatching. It takes time and understanding to make a decision like this.
 
I think its lovely that you are trying to help people so that they do not have a bad out come, but on my first hatch a lot of babies died yet I learned from that and figured out what happened or went wrong and tied again. People who stop hatching chicks just because they weren't successful the first times means they should probably shouldn't hatch chicks.
 
Well, that seems to be what you're suggesting. If you wouldn't mind, would you edit your original wording, please? If newcomers see that post they might well dive into an assist and kill their chicks.

Still disagree with "many". I have had exactly two birds die after internal pip. One was because it got flipped and stuck, one other was a duck egg that quit for unknown reasons. I have been hatching for near two years. Not much, but there are many that have been hatching for much longer whose results agree.
Sorry I missed this reply. This is great.
 
I don't want to argue... But just as my piece I shall say: You look at this website, Backyard Chickens, more than a majority- more than half of the folks hatched fine without assisting. Yes, (I might not be right on the percentage) but about 20% are only assisted. I agree that it is sad that certain chicks die, but you might risk the chance of killing something perfectly fine by assisting it. Do you want to take that risk? then be sad that you hurt the poor thing... Personally I wouldn't. I'd assist a chick struggling. I have 21 chickens. more than half of them are from hatcheries... But I doubt they were assisted, in fact I know they weren't. But the ones I hatched under a broody hen, weren't assisted from me either. And my 7 Guinea fowl weren't assisted either... I am glad you have your very own opinion. That's a good thing. but please don't push it on other BYCers. Thank you. Have a nice evening.
 
I have assisted before but only after they have pipped 12 hrs or more and there seems to be a problem and no other egg is pipped. If other eggs have pipped you could kill more just for the sake of the one. And once pipped they have oxygen and are usually fine givin time to rest to zip. If i do assist i remove the top half of the shell and slowly and gently pull back membrane only on the top half and if no bleeding or veins. I leave the rest to them to get out to ensure yolk sac absorbs and they don't come out weakling and die anyhow
 
What do you think of completely helping a chick hatch?

Here's what I have to back up my opinion:
  • If the humidity is too dry, the chicks get "shrink-wrapped" by the membrane, which dries out and turns sticky - preventing the chicks from rotating in the shell. If the humidity is too low during any part of the incubation period, this can result in chick death at any stage of its development.
This is why you should help open the egg of a chick that just pipped Because their membrane may be dried out (or may soon dry out), they may have oxygen issues, they're too big to position themselves any further. So many pippers die! Although you don't want to break veins. And if they're having trouble hatching, you would think you should add more water or a cloth to help it not dryout but this can drown it. Don't leave a struggling chick laying there, exhausted.


I understand the quick thought of helping to be disasterous but don't single out a single comment. There's research to be done and each hatch is different! It's all my posts in this thread, replies, video, comments together that are my full representation. I was expecting issues to come up when I posted this thread.



This is a joke, right? Someone is punking me, because they know how I would react to this ridiculous post?

I am refusing to bite.
Who did this?

@DwayneNLiz
@rjohns39
@shawluvsbirds
@Wickedchicken6
@holm25

I know it was one of you. No one would really think this! Fess Up, I caught you!
 

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