Heritage Large Fowl - Phase II

[hellbender]

ROFL... hellbender we have GOT to get you a dexter. LOL

Dexter, it could happen. Guernsey is also a possibility. My son thinks we need a freaking dairy cow.Wants to play with mixing the milk with goat milk for cheese...We have enough to do. Why can't he see that? Or...perhaps my arthritis makes me the bind and exhausted one...

What I wouldn't do to be 16 again...and of course, know what I know now....or not!!!

 

[RedRidge]

We never have to test out cheese, at least not the hard varieties.  If it blows up, I figure it's not good.  I'm worse than a kid...I love to paint the hard cheese with the colored wax.  My Granny used plain ol' sealing wax...and it worked fine.  She made some fine 'hard farmstead cheese' that was quite sharp and I loved it.  I haven't quite got it as good as she did but I'm getting close.  Might be the sealing wax...I'll try that!

To get this on to chickens...My birds know when we're cheese making and if it's before they go in for the night, they wait out by the fence..sure, we pour out about 6 or 8 gallons of whey into those 2 gallon rubber tubs after they get their little bit of crack'...ed corn. It amazes me, just how much they love that stuff (cracked corn), considering everything else they get on their own and what we give to 'em!

No no no... You misunderstood. ..
There is a genetic MILK test for determining potential cheese properties - 3 different genetic pairs actually.

 

[Arielle]

Quote: 10x later . . . LOL tongue is falling off . . . .

Black defines a color, I'm not aware that it defines a specific mold. I've never seen black mold in my waterers. A forgotten bucket has developed a red or pink slime . . . . but honestly I've not seen black on my buckets.

Concerning the water, mold would be a concern (or the slime) that forms at the rim because it provides a medium for bacteria to grow. What I tell my boy is if it is not squeaky clean, then it isn't clean. No matter how it looks.

It would take too much ACV to drop the PH enough to deter bacterial growth. Enough to be effective would make the birds not want to drink the water. ACV is one of those truths that gets passed around but has no real effect concerning the water.

George-- from my own personal experience-- my waterers do not grow that slime. THey stay sqeaky clean between cleanings. I'm talking about the inside that holds the water supply. No slime at all.

 

[RedRidge]

ROFL... hellbender we have GOT to get you a dexter. LOL

Dexter, it could happen.  Guernsey is also a possibility.  My son thinks we need a freaking dairy cow.Wants to play with mixing the milk with goat milk for cheese...We have enough to do.  Why can't he see that?  Or...perhaps my arthritis makes me the bind and exhausted one...

Unfortunately your floc rate is relative to your least dense milk so the only thing cows milk gives you is quantity - and even that is at a lower percentage than the goat milk.

What I wouldn't do to be 16 again...and of course, know what I know now....or not!!!

Oh ME TOO! ;-) Although? Fun to think about but... There is probably a reason we are naive at that age. ;-)

 

[subhanalah]

Oh ME TOO! ;-) Although? Fun to think about but... There is probably a reason we are naive at that age. ;-)

so people continue procreating...that's the only reason I can think of lol

 

[Arielle]

Quote: Ron, you really need to try low carb eating-- it helps a lot of arthritic conditions.

Remember he is bright enough to figure out when he has bitten off too much to chew . . . . better than dampening his enthusiasm.

Perhaps a survey of the current buyers to see if they are as enthused by the new cow-goat product??

 

[hellbender]

No no no... You misunderstood. ..
There is a genetic MILK test for determining potential cheese properties - 3 different genetic pairs actually.

OK...not my first mistake.Just as an aside...I don't think we need any dairy cattle here...I'm trying to get my head around what my son is thinking about. We will NEVER sell any sort of milk or milk product. We do give raw goat milk to a few folks...have done for years. I feel pretty certain that I will exercise my VETO power on the cow!!!

 

[gjensen]

10x later . . . LOL tongue is falling off . . . .

Black defines a color, I'm not aware that it defines a specific mold. I've never seen black mold in my waterers. A forgotten bucket has developed a red or pink slime . . . . but honestly I've not seen black on my buckets.



George-- from my own personal experience-- my waterers do not grow that slime. THey stay sqeaky clean between cleanings. I'm talking about the inside that holds the water supply. No slime at all.

I was not talking about your waterers. Never seen them. Just general comments on the subject.

 

[hellbender]

Ron, you really need to try low carb eating-- it helps a lot of arthritic conditions.

Remember he is bright enough to figure out when he has bitten off too much to chew . . . . better than dampening his enthusiasm.

Perhaps a survey of the current buyers to see if they are as enthused by the new cow-goat product??

Ok...one dairy cow wouldn't kill us but we really don't need it. She could have plenty of room with the steers but someone will have to milk her!

I'm planning a major expansion in the dairy goat herd and I'm prepared and actually looking forward to milking more of them and even bottle feeding the kids..(I ALWAYS bottle feed). I don't need yearlings bouncing off walls when I'm trying to teach them to stand for trimming ...or for any other reason. Additionally, kids can do far more damage to a good udder than a skillful hand milker. Plus....I'm more than a little bit afraid to have my head that close to a cow's foot ...I have no left eye and i have always milked from the left side. Everyone I ever saw milk, did so from the left.

PIZZ on a cow! lol

If he can convince me that he really needs or really wants a cow..fine but he will have to

convince he'll have a'back-up' milker that will not be me...


Bringing this back to chickens...

I have three turken/NNs hens, each covering a nice clutch of Black Australorp eggs. The brood hens are 2 years old and none have ever been used but these three are crazy and intend to stay broody, I think.

The hatching eggs are from cocks that are: 2 and 3 years old. The hens are over 2 years of age.


Hummm...wonder where these Australorps came from? JAJAJAJAJAJA

 

[LindaB220]

Ummm my waterer have been much cleaner than without. THe slight layer of slimy that can grow in a missed container doesn't grow in the containers with vinegar added.

Otherwise, I guess I would ask, is all mold bad mold?? ANd is this a good mold or a bad mold??

Just my $.02 worth. I don't agree with that information about the mold growing. Just ain't so. Maybe if you didn't change it for months, but normal does not have growth.