How can 2 cream legbars make a White legbar??

[MokiYoki]

I just want to note for everyone that dominant white and reccesive white do act differently besides one being dominant and the other reccesive.
Dominant white will only block black pigment and does nothing to reds and yellows. It also tends to leave pigment spots that are only less obvious in a homozygous bird.
Reccesive white however is a very clean white that blocks all pigments in the feathers but leaves pigment in the skin and eyes untouched. It also causes the birds to be a little smaller than they would be otherwise.
And moonshiner if you crossed a homozygous white to a homozygous normal all the offspring would appear to be normal crested cream legbars but those resulting heterozygous birds when crossed to whites would produce a 50/50 split. If you continued to cross the white parented creames to whites you would only ever get splits.
This is a good way to diversify the genetics of your flock without ending up with mucky coloured birds

 

[The Moonshiner]

And moonshiner if you crossed a homozygous white to a homozygous normal all the offspring would appear to be normal crested cream legbars but those resulting heterozygous birds when crossed to whites would produce a 50/50 split. If you continued to cross the white parented creames to whites you would only ever get splits.
This is a good way to diversify the genetics of your flock without ending up with mucky coloured birds

Yes. That's what I posted as a reply when it was stated that that cross would produce more of both. I replied that it would only produce CCL split for recessive white and it would not produce some whites unless the creams happen to carry recessive white.
Don't agree on this. If the creams are from white parents then they carry one gene for recessive white. When bred to white they would produce splits and whites not splits only.

 

[oregonkat]

We have hatch 100+ Legbars a year since 2012. We didn't get any white chicks to hatch until 2016. Some people really like the white legbars and have abandoned the cream legbar variety to breed exclusively white legbars. Last year Myers hatchery was selling day old legbar pullets for $75 each (they dropped that to $54 each this year) so they are definitely very desirable to some people. The mark of quality in pure breed poultry is uniformity so those that are working on improving the quality of their Cream Legbars are culling the white gene out of their cream flocks. They don't want white to hatch from cream parents because it effects the uniformity of their breeding lines. A good breeder will have one flock dedicated to white legbars and a separate flock dedicated to Cream Legbars and will never cross the two so predicable results come from both. Here are some of mine for an idea of what the whites legbars look like when grown. View attachment 1292252 View attachment 1292253 View attachment 1292254

I am usually not a fan of white birds, but I am making an exception for these. That hen is lovely.

 

[MokiYoki]

Yes. That's what I posted as a reply when it was stated that that cross would produce more of both. I replied that it would only produce CCL split for recessive white and it would not produce some whites unless the creams happen to carry recessive white.
Don't agree on this. If the creams are from white parents then they carry one gene for recessive white. When bred to white they would produce splits and whites not splits only.

White splits APPEAR as any other crested cream legbar. The judges at a show wont be able to tell the difference.

 

[The Moonshiner]

White splits APPEAR as any other crested cream legbar. The judges at a show wont be able to tell the difference.

Yes and?
I don't know what that has to do with what I posted or why you keep posting that.
I believe we are all aware of that. I know I am and stated that in my first post. I have never said anything in the contrary.
I understand breeding CCL and the recessive white gene. How to breed for the whites and how to breed away from them.
This whole subject isnt that complicated Idk why this thread is making it seem more so then it is.
Recessive white is just that. A recessive gene like most any other recessive genes.

 

[Minky]

Alrighty then......

I do appreciate the help, Moonshiner. It appears I have 2 regular old looking cream leg bars, one (my Roo) with the recessive white gene and ...who knows what my baby chick has- may or may not have a copy I guess (mom and dad both had copies of the recessive white gene). We'll see next year! I don't care either way as long as she lays eggs!!
LOL