How long from Internal pip to External Pip??? (Quail)

[Kiki]

Does anyone know what this "lifting" actually means? Is it an internal pip? Or is it an attempt at an external pip and they are struggling...

Can you take a video of this?

 

[Kiki]

This is both internally pipped in to the air cell (light area insidec the egg) and externally pipped...the crack in the shell.
Can you candle a few eggs and see what you see?

 

[Joylime322]

This is both internally pipped in to the air cell (light area insidec the egg) and externally pipped...the crack in the shell.
Can you candle a few eggs and see what you see?

OH! I am an idiot. I don't know why but I assumed the external pip would have to be some sort of hole. No, I see now. The "lifting" I was describing is that crack in the video. I guess some of them are pipped now? I will try to send a video. Give me a few moments.
@Kiki

 

[Joylime322]

OH! I am an idiot. I don't know why but I assumed the external pip would have to be some sort of hole. No, I see now. The "lifting" I was describing is that crack in the video. I guess some of them are pipped now? I will send a video. Give me a few moments.

Okay, my phone is not working to take the video but I can see more "cracks" in the air cell and the shadow of the chick moving around inside. The egg I checked has had a pip since yesterday morning at around 11 am.
Edit: I have been hearing this chick wiggle around for almost 24 hours.... But I haven't seen any visible rocking or heard any chirping.

 

[Joylime322]

Okay, my phone is not working to take the video but I can see more "cracks" in the air cell and the shadow of the chick moving around inside. The egg I checked has had a pip since yesterday morning at around 11 am.
Edit: I have been hearing this chick wiggle around for almost 24 hours.... But I haven't seen any visible rocking or heard any chirping.

With what I have said... could any experienced person give me an estimate of what I should wait for? Is it 24 hours after the first external pip to hatching? What if I haven't heard any chirping or seen rocking??
Edit: I'm not trying to be annoying... Im just over excited

 

[MGG]

Hello Community! Yesterday, I saw some small "lifting" of the shell (like a pip) but it hadn't broken the membrane or very much of the shell. I simply assumed that the chick inside had made their internal pip and pushed hard on the inner wall of the shell. A few eggs have this, I think. Its day 18 of their incubation... and I am so so ready for them to hatch. So how long does it take them from internal pip to making an external pip? If I can't see any external pips this morning does that mean they will likely hatch tmrw? This is my first hatch so I am very new at this. Advise is welcomed with open arms.

Yay! I wondered how you were doing with your quailies!
Yep, if they're cracked like in Kiki's video, they're externally pipped. My quail usually take around 24-48 hours after externally pipping to hatch. Don't open the incubator up any more now, just let them be. Here's a couple examples of an external pip, it's like a little pyramid.

And here's some zipping, which is right before they hatch. It's the last step of the hatching process.

And one of the quail's external pips.

How's the NR been doing turning them?

 

[MGG]

With what I have said... could any experienced person give me an estimate of what I should wait for? Is it 24 hours after the first external pip to hatching? What if I haven't heard any chirping or seen rocking??
Edit: I'm not trying to be annoying... Im just over excited

Quail aren't very vocal while hatching, or at least mine never are. Don't worry. They've got it. Quail take their good sweet time.

 

[Joylime322]

Can take a while very tiring work pipping wont be long then soon as one out they all seem to pop out lol hoe many eggs u got? Mine hatched day 19 xx

What was your hatching rate?

 

[Joylime322]

Yay! I wondered how you were doing with your quailies!
Yep, if they're cracked like in Kiki's video, they're externally pipped. My quail usually take around 24-48 hours after externally pipping to hatch. Don't open the incubator up any more now, just let them be. Here's a couple examples of an external pip, it's like a little pyramid. View attachment 2351666View attachment 2351675
And here's some zipping, which is right before they hatch. It's the last step of the hatching process.View attachment 2351678View attachment 2351677
And one of the quail's external pips.View attachment 2351680
How's the NR been doing turning them?

Thanks for the photos @MGG!! And yes. They have externally pipped like in @Kiki's video! The one pipped almost 24 hours ago so..... Maybe I can hope for some action today!!
The NR has been AMAZING. It turned them well and even though I had to add cardboard and tape (as said before... I was sent 30 eggs for that poor 22 egg incubator) and it handled it all fine. The hygrometer and thermometer have been accurate (as far as I know)! I am so grateful for all the help and advise I got about choosing an incubator.
I put in the drawer liner on day 15 and after throwing away 5 dead eggs (they seem to have quit on day 2 or 3), they have been in lockdown ever since.
Like I said, If I hold them up to my ear then I can hear scratching. Still no movement or sounds though.
I am so thrilled for this process to begin.
I'll update this once they have begun hatching!!!

 

[Kiki]

With what I have said... could any experienced person give me an estimate of what I should wait for? Is it 24 hours after the first external pip to hatching? What if I haven't heard any chirping or seen rocking??
Edit: I'm not trying to be annoying... Im just over excited

You should see a chick tonight.