Hurricane Advice

[Ursuline Chick]

This smells like something I've smelled before, but I'm trying not to jump to conclusions. I'd rather wait until real facts are available and then judge. It is apparent to me that many are hurting needlessly, what I can't answer is why? Smells like a political agenda, but I have no idea whose. And again I have no facts, so I could be totally wrong.

It smells like Katrina all over again to me, and it just saddens me that, as a nation, we haven't realized that people are more important than politics, regardless of one's personal beliefs.

 

[Kiki]

It smells like Katrina all over again to me, and it just saddens me that, as a nation, we haven't realized that people are more important than politics, regardless of one's personal beliefs.

Harvey isn't even "old" yet.
The political mess he left behind is...a joke.

 

[Ursuline Chick]

For what its worth, said video... Well I'm guilty. After 36 hours of work living on Adrenalin we retired to the bar, drank heavily and planned out the next round of activity. I'm sure to the outside observer it looked like we were partying, rather than drowning our sorrows and trying to get ready for the next day.

You are a kind person rjohns, what we saw 12 years ago had nothing to do with someone having a drink after 36 hrs of work and planning the next 36. We saw people who said 5pm was quitting time for everyone (sometimes at gun point).

 

[rjohns39]

You are a kind person rjohns, what we saw 12 years ago had nothing to do with someone having a drink after 36 hrs of work and planning the next 36. We saw people who said 5pm was quitting time for everyone (sometimes at gun point).

Understand... All I can say is Katrina was a disaster.

 

[Kiki]

Not sure if this is going to be a good thread or not..just skimmed it.
I will read it tonight.
https://www.backyardchickens.com/threads/vacinations-and-other-meds-forever.1203873/

 

[Rasputin66]

You are a kind person rjohns, what we saw 12 years ago had nothing to do with someone having a drink after 36 hrs of work and planning the next 36. We saw people who said 5pm was quitting time for everyone (sometimes at gun point).

FEMA workers aren't in it for fame and fortune... hundreds of FEMA people have been living in tent cities in South Florida since mid-September. 90 degree days, two to a tent, 16-18 hour days.

 

[Ursuline Chick]

FEMA workers aren't in it for fame and fortune... hundreds of FEMA people have been living in tent cities in South Florida since mid-September. 90 degree days, two to a tent, 16-18 hour days.

Perhaps we have made some progress, it certainly isn't enough when people are dying. We lost about 1800 people, because people with their own boats were not allow to continue to rescue people after 5pm. I still feel guilty for evacuating with a 2 1/2 year old, instead of staying and putting my nursing skills to use. It just seems someone should have learned to plan better, they have had 12 years. I am sure there are people who work for FEMA who simply want to do the right thing, however when someone tells you they have the right to go through your home anytime they want, because you have a FEMA trailor on your property, all your property is consider federal property, including your flooded, unlivable home. And one of my favorites was being asked why I needed any help at all, because I drove a "nice car"! (I was homeless for over 2 years) As were many working middle class New Orleaneans. Sorry, but I guess you just had to see it for yourself. Can't start rebuilding because you will not have power for 8 more months. Will have to post a picture of me at 50 years old putting my own roof on my house. Sorry, y'all, just hits a nerve that we can't do better for PR. Too slow a learning curve for me.

 

[Chickassan]

I wonder what people from a couple of hundred years back would think of how we do today? Even in my grandparents generation if someone needed help everyone would band up to at least do a little something and that added up quick. Now people just don't worry about it if it doesn't effect them. It's like they've lost touch that we're all on the same boat,going exactly the same place.

 

[rjohns39]

@Chickassan Today It's almost like country vice city. I understand where @Ursuline Chick is coming from. In the country, if a neighbor is in trouble everyone turns out to work the issue. in the city, everyone seems to expect someone else to fix it. What was problematic during Katrina was people were trying to do the right thing (country folks in the city) and other city folks were running them off. NOLA is interesting because it's the "big city" in the country. And a huge melting pot of culture. And truly a melting pot of city and country. First problem is define looting: so here's a test question: kids coming out the broken window of a store with a big screen tv. Is that looting or survival? Now scenario 2: Woman coming out the broken window of a grocery store with a case of water. Is that survival or looting? During katrina people stealing electronics got a pass and people stealing water were killed. Simply put it was a poor ROE. I truly believe that if the government had stayed out, NOLA people would have worked and solved the problem much better. Sometimes help is needed, but sometimes extra help is not helpful.

 

[Ursuline Chick]

@Chickassan Today It's almost like country vice city. I understand where @Ursuline Chick is coming from. In the country, if a neighbor is in trouble everyone turns out to work the issue. in the city, everyone seems to expect someone else to fix it. What was problematic during Katrina was people were trying to do the right thing (country folks in the city) and other city folks were running them off. NOLA is interesting because it's the "big city" in the country. And a huge melting pot of culture. And truly a melting pot of city and country. First problem is define looting: so here's a test question: kids coming out the broken window of a store with a big screen tv. Is that looting or survival? Now scenario 2: Woman coming out the broken window of a grocery store with a case of water. Is that survival or looting? During katrina people stealing electronics got a pass and people stealing water were killed. Simply put it was a poor ROE. I truly believe that if the government had stayed out, NOLA people would have worked and solved the problem much better. Sometimes help is needed, but sometimes extra help is not helpful.

Thank you, my biggest problem is that we seemed to have learned nothing. As evidenced by PR. But you are correct, although hurricane Betsy or Audry (for that matter) were not as bad, we banded together as a community and did what was needed for people, Katrina was a totally different situation, you felt like you were being kept from doing for yourself or anyone else for that matter. Just hope and pray PR has an easier time of it.