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I am sooooo screwed. GUESS WHO'S BACK! Pic
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passthepeace, sorry, but I just couldn't resist
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Purr - who's your friend on Kodiak? It's a small place, I might know or know of them.
Sterling, since the game warden seems to have no interest in calling you back I did a quick search online. Unfortunately, PA seems to have some pretty strict rules about shooting bears for "defense". You have to be able to prove, beyond a doubt, that the bear was actively threatening your or another human. Also, since you now know that the bear has been attracted to the garbage, if you don't remove it the Game Warden could cite you for "baiting" the bear. Also, unfortunately, since you called the Warden, they know that you are having bear issues, so it would be very difficult to shoot, shovel, shutup.
Here's the code section I found, as well as the link:
Chapter 21. Game or Wildlife Protection
Search Pennsylvania Game Commission - State Wildlife Management Agency Home Printable Version eMail
Subchapter C. Destruction of Game or Wildlife in Self-Defense
2141. Killing game or wildlife to protect person.
(a) General rule. - It is unlawful for a person to kill any game or wildlife as a means of protection unless it is clearly evident from all the facts that a human is endangered to a degree that the immediate destruction of the game or wildlife is necessary.
(b) Report, safekeeping and investigation. - A person killing any game or wildlife under this subchapter shall report the event to an officer as soon as possible following the incident but in no case later than 24 hours, provide for safekeeping of the game or wildlife intact at the place where it was killed and be available for interview by the officer. The person killing the game or wildlife shall answer, without evasion, any pertinent questions of the officer making the investigation.
(c) Exoneration. - At the conclusion of any investigation when any game or wildlife is allegedly killed as protection to a person, the officer may exonerate the person for the otherwise unlawful killing of the game or wildlife. In all cases the officer shall seize and dispose of the game or wildlife as required by this title or upon instructions of the director.
(d) Prosecution. - Any officer making an investigation when game or wildlife was allegedly killed as a protection to a person shall proceed with prosecution as though the game or wildlife was unlawfully killed if the officer is dissatisfied with the explanation of the person killing the game or wildlife or if the physical facts of the killing do not support and sustain the facts alleged by the person killing the game or wildlife.
(e) Penalties. - A violation of this section relating to:
(1) Threatened or endangered species is a misdemeanor of the third degree.
(2) Elk or bear is a summary offense of the first degree.
(3) Deer is a summary offense of the second degree.
(4) Bobcat or otter is a summary offense of the third degree.
(5) Wild turkey or beaver is a summary offense of the fourth degree.
(6) Any other game or wildlife is a summary offense of the fifth degree.
http://www.pgc.state.pa.us/pgc/cwp/view.asp?a=478&q=151063#2141
What you can do is get a temporary electric fence up around you chicken coop (I find it ironic that they'll allow people to shoot bears for tearing up orchards but not chicken coops). It doesn't have to be fancy, just putting out pulsing electricity. The bears can sense it and won't usually try to penetrate it.
When the warden does call you back, let him know that you have tried to haze the bear (paintballs will NOT hurt a bear - great idea BTW) and that he does not respond. This is a problem bear that cannot be "trained". He's already become habituated to people and is not afraid. Dispatch is the only option.
I sure hope this helps!!!
Purr - who's your friend on Kodiak? It's a small place, I might know or know of them.
Sterling, since the game warden seems to have no interest in calling you back I did a quick search online. Unfortunately, PA seems to have some pretty strict rules about shooting bears for "defense". You have to be able to prove, beyond a doubt, that the bear was actively threatening your or another human. Also, since you now know that the bear has been attracted to the garbage, if you don't remove it the Game Warden could cite you for "baiting" the bear. Also, unfortunately, since you called the Warden, they know that you are having bear issues, so it would be very difficult to shoot, shovel, shutup.
Here's the code section I found, as well as the link:
Chapter 21. Game or Wildlife Protection
Search Pennsylvania Game Commission - State Wildlife Management Agency Home Printable Version eMail
Subchapter C. Destruction of Game or Wildlife in Self-Defense
2141. Killing game or wildlife to protect person.
(a) General rule. - It is unlawful for a person to kill any game or wildlife as a means of protection unless it is clearly evident from all the facts that a human is endangered to a degree that the immediate destruction of the game or wildlife is necessary.
(b) Report, safekeeping and investigation. - A person killing any game or wildlife under this subchapter shall report the event to an officer as soon as possible following the incident but in no case later than 24 hours, provide for safekeeping of the game or wildlife intact at the place where it was killed and be available for interview by the officer. The person killing the game or wildlife shall answer, without evasion, any pertinent questions of the officer making the investigation.
(c) Exoneration. - At the conclusion of any investigation when any game or wildlife is allegedly killed as protection to a person, the officer may exonerate the person for the otherwise unlawful killing of the game or wildlife. In all cases the officer shall seize and dispose of the game or wildlife as required by this title or upon instructions of the director.
(d) Prosecution. - Any officer making an investigation when game or wildlife was allegedly killed as a protection to a person shall proceed with prosecution as though the game or wildlife was unlawfully killed if the officer is dissatisfied with the explanation of the person killing the game or wildlife or if the physical facts of the killing do not support and sustain the facts alleged by the person killing the game or wildlife.
(e) Penalties. - A violation of this section relating to:
(1) Threatened or endangered species is a misdemeanor of the third degree.
(2) Elk or bear is a summary offense of the first degree.
(3) Deer is a summary offense of the second degree.
(4) Bobcat or otter is a summary offense of the third degree.
(5) Wild turkey or beaver is a summary offense of the fourth degree.
(6) Any other game or wildlife is a summary offense of the fifth degree.
http://www.pgc.state.pa.us/pgc/cwp/view.asp?a=478&q=151063#2141
What you can do is get a temporary electric fence up around you chicken coop (I find it ironic that they'll allow people to shoot bears for tearing up orchards but not chicken coops). It doesn't have to be fancy, just putting out pulsing electricity. The bears can sense it and won't usually try to penetrate it.
When the warden does call you back, let him know that you have tried to haze the bear (paintballs will NOT hurt a bear - great idea BTW) and that he does not respond. This is a problem bear that cannot be "trained". He's already become habituated to people and is not afraid. Dispatch is the only option.
I sure hope this helps!!!
You also CAN call the police or sheriff department, since this is a potential life threatening situation. If nothing else maybe they can mobilize the darn warden.
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Shelly, Hey maybe the PGC can trap him and bring him down to our mtn's here..Love to bag a big bruin like that.. LOL
He's been around people before, i ques he had no tags in his ears..
only been hunting bear for 8 years and got two so far..
2000 213 lb's me on right and friend on left
Here's a 200 lb's from 2004 me on left and my dad on right
2005 didnt get out..
2006 i seen 3 but no shots..
Last year not a one around in the area
This year 2008 there are 2 of them here again,
Charlie
He's been around people before, i ques he had no tags in his ears..
only been hunting bear for 8 years and got two so far..
2000 213 lb's me on right and friend on left
Here's a 200 lb's from 2004 me on left and my dad on right
2005 didnt get out..
2006 i seen 3 but no shots..
Last year not a one around in the area
This year 2008 there are 2 of them here again,
Charlie
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Okay, wait a minute here.....let's see if I've got this right...
You left garbage bags out last night.
A bear got into the garbage and scared you silly.
So you.....
LEFT THE GARBAGE OUT THERE TONIGHT???
What's wrong with this picture??
Okay, wait a minute here.....let's see if I've got this right...
You left garbage bags out last night.
A bear got into the garbage and scared you silly.
So you.....
LEFT THE GARBAGE OUT THERE TONIGHT???
What's wrong with this picture??
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As kodiakchicken noted earlier:
"Also, since you now know that the bear has been attracted to the garbage, if you don't remove it the Game Warden could cite you for "baiting" the bear. "
You are baiting that bear. Good luck with the warden.
As kodiakchicken noted earlier:
"Also, since you now know that the bear has been attracted to the garbage, if you don't remove it the Game Warden could cite you for "baiting" the bear. "
You are baiting that bear. Good luck with the warden.
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