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I haven't read all the posts. First, the one important element missing in our schools is DISCIPLINE! IMHO, the "greatest generation" raised the crummiest kids. We are reaping the results. Some complain about the dress codes. It's been proven that children in the inner cities schools perform/behave better when dressed well (don't tell me they can't afford uniforms when I see expensive tennis shoes and baggy pants). In general, I think people who dress up behave better. Even teachers dress down now. Very young girls dress like ladies of the night (where are their parents!).

In the second place, schools should concentrate on basic education instead of all the social engineering classes. Yes, diversity, sports, ethnic history are important but it is English, math, computer, etc. that will get the jobs in the future. There isn't time in the school year to teach all that fluff! It is fluff; put it on your resume if you don't believe it.

I think Spanish and foreign language classes are also important; I have taken Spanish and German college classes. While Spanish is beautiful, I resent having to press One for English on my phone. I know for a fact that immigrants can live here for decades and never learn English--I lived in NJ once.

Several years ago a young journalist took the camera to Miami to prove that very point. Her father came during the Cuban crisis and he never learned English. Why would he when he has Spanish TV, newspapers, cafes, barber shops, etc. His entire life is surrounded by HIS language.

I think the foreign language is an asset in life and the culture of the home country should be observed, but I believe everyone should be the best AMERICAN citizen possible. Otherwise, if the first language and culture is that important that it should be forced upon the new country (USA) then why immigrate. A major city in my state has an event coming up--Hispanic Family Day. If it was a Caucasian Family Day, would that be racist and maybe grounds for a lawsuit or would that also be diversity?

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The Chinese only own 10% of our national debt. Of course if they don't raise the debt ceiling and our value drops even further they will be coming to the garage sell along with every other prosperous country in the world. Farsi would probably be useful too.
 
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Dissing Arizona and it's inhabitants now are you?

Not dissing Az at all. Besides they have a lot of good inhabitants. They are just misunderstood.
 
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Actually pockets of other languages are nothing new to this country. Since the 19th century, San Francisco has had its Chinatown, New York its Little Italy, Miami its Little Havana. As each new wave of immigrants has settled here, they have brought their language and their culture with them. We are better for it! Many new arrivals never learn the language. Heck, my MIL only spoke Yiddish or Russian til the day she died and she arrived here in 1928! But her sons learned English in school and one of her grandsons is currently a professor of English Lit!

What you are witnessing is just the normal evolution of immigrant-into-American. The process sometimes takes more than a generation but it's been working well now for 235 years. Just be patient and let time do its thing.

JMO


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When I went to Washington DC with CloseUp, a program for teenagers to learn about government, I went with a group from my state. I was very surprised to see that along with the people whose first languages were Native and English, we had Russian speakers. This was over 100 years since Russia had sold the state. I also knew people who grew up in Finnish communities, and in well established French speaking communities in the Northeast. Holding on to your language identity is as old as America.


Not trying to get it locked, just saying that its headed that way.... besides, its mine!
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I have no problem saying that people who choose to move here need to make an effort to learn English. I agree that if you are going to live in a country, you should make a concerted effort to learn the language of that country. I don't understand why anyone would be offended at simply hearing another language being spoken out in public. How can it possibly harm someone to hear another language being spoken?
 
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I have no problem saying that people who choose to move here need to make an effort to learn English. I agree that if you are going to live in a country, you should make a concerted effort to learn the language of that country. I don't understand why anyone would be offended at simply hearing another language being spoken out in public. How can it possibly harm someone to hear another language being spoken?

I can say it bothers a lot of people my kids growing up in school just hated it, my mothers caregiver does this, to have the people they are around speak in another language on the phone or together. It is rude, you don't know what they are saying and feel like they are saying bad things or talking about you or?
 
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