IB BS or Bronze BS....Any guesses?

[DylansMom]

This chick is going on 8 weeks old and it is obviously a black shoulder, but is it IB BS or Bronze BS, considering the birds in the pen it's egg came from it could be either. I think it's a hen as there is very little dark coloring on it, but I have no experience with Bronze so I would welcome any input from those who do. Heck, I would even welcome wild guesses. @q8peafowl remember when I said I might ask you for your opinion on Bronze BS, this is it!

It is very uniform in coloring, not much contrast.




PS, the feather on the wing that looks white is more like a cream color, this pic makes it look whiter than it is.

 

[DylansMom]

What is a 'hens pattern'?

Can you see the difference? It is hard to put into words, his dark coloring looks almost blocky, with lighter color inside the darker color, like lacing on a chicken. On her the feathers are just light with dark speckling, she is actually 2 weeks older than him so if she were a male she should have these "laced" looking darker feathers by now. Here is a picture of an IBBS male showing the laced pattern with dark edges and a light center, BS

hens never develop these.

 

[DylansMom]

That helps a lot, I have been watching my BS chicks closely and it seems that almost all of them are getting green on the back and neck. I was hoping for hens... Guess I have some males for sale. I am still a bit confused about the lacing, I have seen a very striking hen with the 'diamond' like pattern on her back, she was beautiful. But you are saying that males backs get a laced feather look at a young age and females don't? I may have misunderstood you. Sorry, I don't mean to hijack your thread about Bronze.

From what I have seen it holds true for most IBBS birds, now if there are other genes involved that may change things. It seems to me I've seen spalding BS hens and perhaps Red Buff Spalding hens that developed the very striking patterning, but I've never seen it on the plain old IBBS girls. The amount of green feathering the girls get can very as well, I've had some that had none... just brown back there and others that had quite a bit of green. On New2's Little Yellow the crest feathers are green as well, I have never had an IBBS girl with a green crest, mine have all had brown crests. So there is some variation to watch out for.

 

[Peafowlssssssss]

Yes I do, well it don't look bronze black shoulder for me, it look more like india blue black shoulder peahen.

 

[Peafowlssssssss]

Is the parents india blue black shoulders split bronze?

 

[DylansMom]

Is the parents india blue black shoulders split bronze?

Male is a Bronze Black Shoulder, hen's are 2 bronze, 1 bronze WE split Pied, and 1 Black Shoulder split to Bronze, I assume since it's BS pattern the mom had to be the BS split Bronze, unless one of the others is carrying a BS gene we don't know about.

 

[Peafowlssssssss]

Have a look at this black shoulder chick, it looks a lot like yours, but i'm still hoping for a bronze for you

http://poultrydatabase.com/bilder/5-1-42.jpg

 

[DylansMom]

Have a look at this black shoulder chick, it looks a lot like yours, but i'm still hoping for a bronze for you

http://poultrydatabase.com/bilder/5-1-42.jpg

That does look a lot like my chick. If it isn't a Bronze BS that is fine, I have an adult Bronze BS hen, a bronze split BS male chick, a Bronze split BS female chick, a Bronze split pied & BS female chick and a Spalding split Bronze male chick, and this would be a female IB BS split Bronze, so I will have a nice group for my Bronze pen.

 

[AugeredIn]

I would say no, its IB BS. But they have surprised me before.

 

[Yoda]

Does anyone have any Bronze BS chick pictures to compare it to? I put my IBBS peacock with an IB hen white eye and hatched out a BS chick. My hen has to be carrying the BS gene for this to happen. Do you know if any of your others are split to BS? Wish I had a bronze bs chick picture to compare it with, but again eventually you will find out