If a dog killed any of my chickens I hope someone would be

[PurpleChicken]

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All opinions are welcome here. There have been countless posts on both
sides of the arguement. Some want to shoot anything that comes close
to their chickens while others just cry when their unprotected chickens
are slaughtered.

I've had the opportunity to shoot predators and refrained. I also live
in a neighborhood where discharging my firearm could potentially make
me end up in jail. Furthermore, killing some childs dog is not something
I take lightly. I do, however, support those who choose to elimate
predators, including rogue dogs.

It sounds to me like you have done what a responsible chicken owner
does by increasing your security against your neighbors rot.

We are all friends here. Some of us, like me, will make a provocative
thread like this to get intellegent discussions going.

I respect your opinion as well as everyone else's here. This is a
discussion among friends.

I agree about the science. In our case it's chemistry. By having our dogs
and ourselves

pee along the property lines it has kept away
many predators up to this point.

Sincerely,
Don

 

[BethinIrving]

Bammy, there's an old saying from Country Folks that goes like this; "good fences make good neighbors".

If you bought a house knowing the neighbor had horses, why would the horses even become an issue later on?

I've actually never seen horses kept without fencing except on government land. Even yet, horses can not only jump fencing, they can also destroy fencing.

 

[Marlinchaser]

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What I have started doing is PEEING on the chickens, that discourages preditors, and it keeps the neighbour kids from wanting to come over and pet my chickens too.

 

[the1much]

i got a ticket for pee'n on my property line,,,, apparently,, it went on the neighbors lawn

P.S.
homeshooled children are usually in the top % for smarts,,,,and thats a FACT.

 

[fowltemptress]

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No you can't protect everything you have but you can try your hardest.

If I leave my car door unlocked with a $100 bill on the front seat and
someone steals it who's fault is it?

Well, obviously the person who stole it. It wasn't smart of me to leave it unlocked, but it wasn't my fault it got stolen. I can pick every lock on my street, but if I decide to use this skill for ill it is not my neighbor's fault for having a lock I can pick.

Not every person can pick a lock, and those who can wouldn't necessarily want to bother to do it. Dogs tend to be the type of animal that would bother to hurl his whole being into destroying a coop, but since they should be contained by the owner I'm not about to go through the added expense of securing against them when my run does fine against raccoons and hawks. People choose their own level of security, but unless their chickens are off their property running willy nilly, I wouldn't ever say it's their fault if the chicken dies due to a dog attack.

I think it's nice people feel they can come here and find people who sympathize, as well as people who will make suggestions about strengthening defenses. I think it's a bit much to expect people to not be a bit surprised and angry when a dog invades their property and kills their pets.

 

[geareduplyn]

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I manufactured chain link dog kennels for many years. They kept dogs in, in fact I gauranteed them to hold every thing but Grizzly Bears. I use the same panels for my chicken individual breeding pens, but how do you fence a 1/4 section to make it dog proof? Responsible dog owners keep their dogs up. Irresponsible don't deserve them.


Dog proof pens

 

[PurpleChicken]

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What I have started doing is PEEING on the chickens, that discourages preditors, and it keeps the neighbour kids from wanting to come over and pet my chickens too.

Dude, you kill me.

 

[CountryMom]

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I agree with that completely. This isn't a blame the owner thread, this
is an "accept the reality" thread.

andehens and PC, I think this is the real thing. Most of the threads I see are from new chicken owners. I guess I haven't been around long enough to get tired of the endless new shocked owners who have lost their flocks or parts of. I was one also being after a pack of coons. However, I did shoot and I did trap and they are gone. I reinenforced my coop and still have more plans. I lost chickens and my HOMESCHOOL kids were right there with me learning that hard lesson. We were all mad more than anything, but the point being they understood why - the coop had two holes we didn't see. My son even took care of one of the coons for me. So, moral is I guess I still have compassion for the newbies and understand some of them are not use to Country life and the amount of livestock verses deadstock that happens. That alone can be enough to run a newbie out of the hobby. I have seen it many times in horses/dogs/cats and even our little guinea pigs. My compassion for the newbies who are in shock is to hopefully encourage them to continue and learn that hard life lesson.

 

[BethinIrving]

Don, please tell us more about the urine repellent.

How well does it work, how often is it applied etc.

Great posting, and thanks!

 

[Bammony]

I'm not sure what you mean. The horses would only become an issue if they got out and destroyed my personal belongings. The neighbors having horses isn't an issue. I had a sheep that got out and went next door and chewed up my neighbors Aspen tree once. He came out and chewed me a new one. Did I look at him and say, "Well Doug< you see....you knew I have sheep. Why didn't you surround your acreage with good enough fencing? I mean, come on....I just really don't understand why you wouldn't put up a good enough fence to keep my animals out."? NO! I made sure my ewe never got out again and replaced his tree. Gimme a break!