I'm going for a long ride..... (See Post #81, Please)

[EweSheep]

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Well, I open his mail and he opens my mail!

 

[Stonerowfarm]

Wow - this has really gone off topic and into the realm of self righteous chest thumping. To each his own but perhaps a bit of civility is in order. I would like to think we are educated enough and saavy enough to be able to use a computer and research various laws if needed. While the OP may have skirted the law, it is her business. Not yours, and certainly not mine. We all have the right to manage our livestock the way we see fit. Personally I'm against free ranging unless I'm in the yard. I don't want to risk the loss. I recently read about another who free ranges her older birds knowing full well they will be taken by predators. Different strokes.

While I respect the OP for what she did and would never question it, I have to give her kudos. I lost my first hen to a hawk this past weekend. Knowing full well they are protected, the very first thing I yelled to my DH was "GET ME THE GUN." Lucky bird - DH came running without a gun. Trapping it never entered my mind - murder did

He spent the next two days reinforcing the cover over the run (snow had pulled it away from the tractor) and making sure we were off the buffet line for the hawks. Meanwhile I kept the girls on lockdown.

I never would have had the presence of mind or guts to grab the bird, cage it and relocate it. Wow - you amaze me. *no sarcasm just awe*

Keep up the good work. I love it when some one is able to preserve a life regardless of whether it's yours or wildlife.

 

[WriterofWords]

Thank you for your support. Let's stop the Troll feeding though it's getting a bit too lively and the thread will be closed.

 

[Chickengal505]

I'm sorry

not trying to brew up trouble

 

[annie3001]

yikes to the picture... sorry i didnt continue reading the whole thread..... just refering to the first post pics.

 

[HeatherLynn]

In addition, a landowner is very often expressly allowed to take and destroy animals that are destroying or about to destroy their crops, livestock or other property, usually under department permit Many states have provisions expressly allowing landowners or others to kill even an endangered species when there is an immediate threat to human life.

Technically what was done was illegal. Not that it cannot be done but you have to get permits beforehand. All well and good but when you have the hawk right there on the ground and helpless then you do what you gotta do. I personally think you did a very kind thing. Sometimes all these government regulation do more harm than good and simple common sense is lost in the mix. If you go the internet center for wildlife damage management does mention netting but also mentions ways to scare hawks away from your birds. I have not had hawk issues yet but i may employ some myself. If you have 2 more that need moved i would call your department of wildlife and get a permit to trap and relocate. You can also get a permit to shoot those damaging livestock.


This is stated among the General exception under Animal Damage Control. I think she did what she felt was morally required of her since she does not want to kill to protect her livestock unless she has to.

I think there is a lesson in this post. Next time SSS and just keep talking about stupid stuff that no one can take offense to. Sigh. I am going to go take an asprin now because too much rude ignorance gives me a headache.

 

[SpringChickens]

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My lips are sealed (sorry- I was having too much fun)

 

[HarlansHollowFarms]

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No trolling here, just pointing out to you that there are legal ways to deal with your hawk problem. And if you are going to take the law into your own hands...don't post it on a public form for the world to see.

I know all you really wanted was pats on the back...you got them. But you still have a hawk problem and you need to be proactive on solving your problem legally so it doesn't happen again.

I would really like to see your next thread be about how you made your runs more hawk proof.

 

[WriterofWords]

I can't believe I fell for that!!!!

 

[dacjohns]

Good grief.

Technically it might have been illegal but I don't fault Writer for what she did. It is very minor compared to what many others have done and even bragged about. If folks are going to get in a tizzy about this then I suggest anytime someone suggests SSS that those posts get immediately deleted and the poster get admonished making the suggestion.

The OP lives in rural New Mexico, there are lots of predators there and she has done what she can under her circumstances to protect her flock.