INDIANA BYC'ers HERE!

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Phew, it was a long day for me! A Chemistry test, a Philosophy midterm, errands, and a trip down to Bluffton. I just got the hens locked in for the night, so now I can relax!

I had a pleasant meeting with CCCCHICKENS and handed over my little Easter-egger bantam boy. Lots of chickening talk and mention of the Lebanon show, too. It was great to meet you!

Speaking of the show, I know a few of you were planning on going. It's still a maybe for me--it depends on a lot of things, like how much homework I have--but if I do go, I'd love to meet y'all.

Man sounds like you did have a long day before I saw you. It was nice to meet you too! I hope you get to go I think you would enjoy it.

 

[Crafty chick]

Jchny~ Happy Birthday!
Sally~ my meat birds are about 4 weeks
Danand~ I've missed you too!
has anyone heard from animallover? i remember she had to give away all her animals. just wondering how she has been doing.
so i worked all day, and the DH took care of the animals since i left so early... i got a call from the neighbor at about noon saying that our rooster was over at her house. so, i called my husband and he went over and walked him back. well, when i got home i noticed 2 of my BO hens missing. i figured they were hanging out somewhere or got lost in the cornfield and would follow the clucks back home. i just went out and they havent come home. checked the garage, barn, and around the bushes and pine tree. they were good girls that came when called and always were friendly.

 

[kabhyper1]

Kab - I originally posted this here: https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/730582/indiana-bycers-here/13530#post_12000215

Wanted to re-post it as I'm hoping it may be of use to you. If the pages won't come up large enough to read from THIS post, go back to the original posted place linked above. (click on the image in this post and they will come up larger) Oftentimes B vitamins - particularly B1 and B12 (Riboflavin and Thiamin) are at issue with new hatched chicks. Some very finely chopped liver is a great help if you have a good source to get some.

Here's the repost:


The first is this link that talks about some of the leg issues and causes. Note particularly the info on vitamins. There are various issues that "usually" affect birds during specific age ranges as a "rule of thumb". There exceptions to the rule of thumb however.

There is a lot of info here...keep reading all the way down
https://sites.google.com/a/poultrypedia.com/poultrypedia/poultry-podiatry



When I first heard about various "B" vitamins having an effect on leg issues w/chickens was a few years ago in one of Joel Salatin's books. Here is some info that is very interesting on riboflavin in young chicks in particular. I think if you click on the images they will come up large enough to read.

Quote:
Pastured Poultry Profits
Author: Joel Salatin
Chapter 26 In It's Entirety
For Educational Purposes Only. No copyright infringement intended










ETA: Someone had remarked earlier how they wondered how the birds could be fine one day and not able to walk the next. In another part of JS book, he mentioned that was what happened. One day they were in that condition. After feeding the liver, they recovered quite quickly as well.

The poly-vi-sol has these vitamins Vitamin A, Vitamin D, Vitamin E, Vitamin C,Thiamin, Riboflavin, Niacin, Vitamin B6, Vitamin B12. The little guy doesn't eat yet. So maybe I'll have to show him. He is super small. I just went out and checked on him and he is still butt sitting and flaps his wings and feet hard when I pick him up. I carefully placed him back under momma. None of the other chicks had this problem. I will read your links. Thanks for the info. I feel like I should put him in a cup to make him try to stand up as I was advised, but I don't want to remove him from his brood and momma. Edit... I have read the poultry podiatry page, but I didn't see a condition like what he has. The vitamins are a good start though.

 

[CCCCCCCCHICKENS]

Kab - I originally posted this here: https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/730582/indiana-bycers-here/13530#post_12000215

Wanted to re-post it as I'm hoping it may be of use to you. If the pages won't come up large enough to read from THIS post, go back to the original posted place linked above. (click on the image in this post and they will come up larger) Oftentimes B vitamins - particularly B1 and B2 (Riboflavin and Thiamin) are at issue with new hatched chicks. Some very finely chopped liver is a great help if you have a good source to get some.

Here's the repost:


The first is this link that talks about some of the leg issues and causes. Note particularly the info on vitamins. There are various issues that "usually" affect birds during specific age ranges as a "rule of thumb". There exceptions to the rule of thumb however.

There is a lot of info here...keep reading all the way down
https://sites.google.com/a/poultrypedia.com/poultrypedia/poultry-podiatry



When I first heard about various "B" vitamins having an effect on leg issues w/chickens was a few years ago in one of Joel Salatin's books. Here is some info that is very interesting on riboflavin in young chicks in particular. I think if you click on the images they will come up large enough to read.

Quote:
Pastured Poultry Profits
Author: Joel Salatin
Chapter 26 In It's Entirety
For Educational Purposes Only. No copyright infringement intended










ETA: Someone had remarked earlier how they wondered how the birds could be fine one day and not able to walk the next. In another part of JS book, he mentioned that was what happened. One day they were in that condition. After feeding the liver, they recovered quite quickly as well.

Man I wish I would of known about the liver thing, before my orloff "passe away". I mean this is not what happened to her and while I am almost 110% sure her leg and foot was unfixable anything would of been worth a shot. I will store this in the back of my brain so that they nezt time I have a chicken with a leg problem I can try it. I hope your chick get better! BTW your chicks are adorable.

 

[kabhyper1]

Man I wish I would of known about the liver thing, before my orloff "passe away". I mean this is not what happened to her and while I am almost 110% sure her leg and foot was unfixable anything would of been worth a shot. I will store this in the back of my brain so that they nezt time I have a chicken with a leg problem I can try it. I hope your chick get better! BTW your chicks are adorable.

Thank you. I wonder if a day old silkie can eat liver? I didn't think about that.

 

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Thank you. I wonder if a day old silkie can eat liver? I didn't think about that.

I dont know. Maybe if you cut it into tiny tiny pieces or blended it up.

 

[kabhyper1]

Does anyone know of foods besides liver that are high in b vitamins and riboflavin? I don't have any sort of liver here. LOL It' not usually at the top of my grocery list.

 

[kabhyper1]

I didn't realize riboflavin and thiamine were b vitamins, man I'm dense. So the poly vi sol has all of those, wouldn't that be enough for such a small chick?

 

[Leahs Mom]

Kab - polyvisol in the water is a good thing and a lot of people use it. The liver is a more "natural" route, but if it's not readily available just keep using the poly.

If you do end up w/liver, you have to chop it very tiny for the little ones. It helps if you run it under some cold water before trying to chop it. If partially frozen it's easier to chop too.

It's hard to keep it from sticking together, but the pieces have to be tiny for them to get it down as it tends to want to stick to everything, including little beaks!



This photo shows one of my winter babies w/ some liver...but several pieces stuck together and try as she might, she couldn't get it down! I had to grab it from her and get the pieces separated! But she was hanging onto it for dear life (I had a heck of a time getting it away from her!)...they LOVE liver and any other meat for that matter!

 

[kabhyper1]

Kab - polyvisol in the water is a good thing and a lot of people use it. The liver is a more "natural" route, but if it's not readily available just keep using the poly.

If you do end up w/liver, you have to chop it very tiny for the little ones. It helps if you run it under some cold water before trying to chop it. If partially frozen it's easier to chop too.

It's hard to keep it from sticking together, but the pieces have to be tiny for them to get it down as it tends to want to stick to everything, including little beaks!



This photo shows one of my winter babies w/ some liver...but several pieces stuck together and try as she might, she couldn't get it down! I had to grab it from her and get the pieces separated! But she was hanging onto it for dear life (I had a heck of a time getting it away from her!)...they LOVE liver and any other meat for that matter!

How cute is she!! I just talked to the breeder. The original silkies for my lie come from Harvest Breeze in crawfordsville. She said she has seen it before and it will correct itself. I feel a bit better. It is such a cute little one. I hate losing them! Is that chicken liver?? Little cannibal.