Internal Layers and Other Egg Issues....Will this never end?? LONG

[meriruka]

This sounds like a good theory (it's being genetic). I bought 7 red stars from the same hatchery. This summer I lost my Rosemary. she just stopped laying and got skinier & skinier until she was gone. I wasn't brave enough to look inside her. Now another (Nutmeg) is doing the same thing. They are around the 2 year mark like yours. They all laid eggs every day (even through the winter the first year) and never went broody. Their bodies probably just can't take it.

It's sweet that Ivy is staying with Rosemary. When my own Rosemary was dying, my rescued OEGB hen Boots stayed with her even though when Rosemary was healthy she was constantly attacking Boots.

I'm so sorry you are going through this, you've certainly had more than your share of sadness, it's not fair.

 

[iajewel]

Im really glad you not only posted this, but are willing to be so honest about issues in your flock. Im really learning something here and Im greatful for your honestly and sharing.

 

[speckledhen]

Since this isn't contagious, and I feel it was nothing I did wrong in my flock management, no reason not to be open about it. I think if we look at it like scientists, gathering data, we may be able to discover something that previously had not been chronicled, so to speak. I am not the only one with internal layers, but some just dont know they have them because they dont open up the hens like we do. I just have to know what happened, if I can determine it.
meriruka, sounds like yours may have been the same issue. Was she hatchery bird?

 

[Mrs MIA]

I'm so sorry Cyn... hang in there...

 

[iajewel]

You said you got these birds from a hatchery. I don't want to be slamming anyone here.. but have you talked to others who bought birds from them? Are the same issues present? If you bought a layer type it is possible somewhere back that hatchery used a roo on many hens, and may not have been the same breed to up production. They also may not know if no one has told them this issue exists. To help prevent this from happening to maybe a first time chicken owner, or the poor birds that suffer. I would certianly do some home work and see if you can find the source. It may not be the harchery at all? Some grains are genetically enginered and are known to cause troubles such as these as well. might want to see who produces the grains in your feeds. If its monsano there is a 100% change they are genetically produced with human genes in the corn.

 

[speckledhen]

Some grains are genetically enginered and are known to cause troubles such as these as well. might want to see who produces the grains in your feeds. If its monsano there is a 100% change they are genetically produced with human genes in the corn.

My DH brought that up. Are GMOs doing that to our birds? Could be something to research. I havent done a survey, but rooster-red started a thread on internal layers when he and I were discussing this awhile back. I'm going to pull that up and try to get it restarted. Hopefully, people will tell us where they got their birds that developed this condition.

I'm hanging, Tori! By the skin of my teeth!​

 

[meriruka]

Yes, Speckledhen, mine are all from a hatchery that breeds only red stars, broilers and white leghorns.

 

[speckledhen]

Hmm, not the same hatchery. As iajewel said, maybe it's not the hatchery, but the genetically engineered corn used in feeds. It's hard to say, but I think it is very odd that ALL five of mine are from the same place, the same age.

 

[meriruka]

Don't know if this will help, but here's a site to locate organic feeds. http://attra.ncat.org/attra-pub/livestockfeed_results_db.php
None for me here in VA

 

[iajewel]

Because I breed and/or show many things.. I have heard from many corners of the animal world. Our rabbits are not breeding.. people are finding it very hard to get them to breed.. cattle are not producing like they did. Horses.. same thing. Kentucky is screaming. cats and dogs.. also reproductive issues. All these animals are fed a corn based food.
I did some homework on it and found they are putting a human gene in corn to help make it resistant to the Round Up applied. so they add human genes so it can resist and take more chemicals..
The issues are not with males, but females and seem to always be in the ovary or fallopian tubes. My own Poodle will never need to be spayed.. she is baron. No drug can help her no surgery can fix it.
My Flemish Giant rabbit, I paid 50.00 for her and 50 for the buck.. nothing.. na da..

Can't be genetics because you can't breed animals that won't produce..Unless the male is a carrier. but a rooster isn't going to carry this problem to a rabbit and so on..

I have gone to feeding locally grown grains from farmers that also feed their cattle from what they grow, and hold back their own seeds. My beans are the same way.. I never thought of myself as a "organic health food nut" Im starting to see some light in all that.
Sad when you live on a farm, grow your own everything, and still are struck with this crap.