internally pipped but not externally, when should i help to hatch?

[Miss Lydia]

Once they internally pip they can take up to 24 hrs to externally pip. I am going to see if I tag some members that hatch often to help I use my Muscovys as my incubators so I don’t have a lot of hands on experience just from following these ladies is all. @WVduckchick @Pyxis @Texas Kiki

 

[5fathens]

Once they internally pip they can take up to 24 hrs to externally pip. I am going to see if I tag some members that hatch often to help I use my Muscovys as my incubators so I don’t have a lot of hands on experience just from following these ladies is all. @WVduckchick @Pyxis @Texas Kiki

thanks

 

[Kiki]

thanks

I quickly read the thread from the beginning.
I am so for your loss.

Right now you have one that is internally pipped but not externally pipped right?

 

[5fathens]

hi thank you,
yes, it has internally pipped and was cheeping this morning hasn't externally pipped but i had to open the incubator quickly earlier (was a false alarm for another egg pipping wrong end) so i did a very quick candle and s/he is still moving in the air sack and i think i may have heard a small peep but am unsure because our hatched one is sooo loud even from the other room!
the first one hatched perfectly and zipped very quickly once it got going, the second as you've read never got further than his beak, there are still 4 left, one definitely internally pipped the others i didn't check again from inside as i was being quick, from outside looks a bit like one may be trying to break into air sack and the others still with complete airsack.....
sorry that was a lot of information from one question.....

 

[Miss Lydia]

@Texas Kiki

 

[Kiki]

Such a touch decision.

As long as you are still seeing good movement I would wait a little longer but .

If it hasn't made progress at the 24 hour mark... 24 hours after you first noticed the internal pip then I might make a safety hole.
But since you've already had one get stuck I worry these last four might have problems too.

. Tough decision.

 

[5fathens]

Such a touch decision.

As long as you are still seeing good movement I would wait a little longer but .

If it hasn't made progress at the 24 hour mark... 24 hours after you first noticed the internal pip then I might make a safety hole.
But since you've already had one get stuck I worry these last four might have problems too.

. Tough decision.

it is isn't it, i'd feel much happier if it would at least pip then it'd be easier and safer to help, am i right to think that opening to check is a bad idea unless i'm planning on intervening? or can i just check quickly and make sure the eggs are damp as i close it up again?
it was this morning i noticed the internal pip so would be around 24 hours when i can next do anything major or just 14 ish hours if i was to try anything before heading to bed....that would be too soon though wouldn't it?
is there an easy way to make an air hole?
sorry lots of questions again, i'm not good at this decision making thing, i know that the one that died did have a much smaller air sack than the others could that have had an effect?
thanks so much

 

[Kiki]

I can tell you that I open my bator a lot.
Many times during lockdown and hatching and it has never caused problems for me.

I think I would be candling them every few hours if I were you.

 

[Miss Lydia]

I used a wood screw to make a safety hole in my gooses egg. But Kiki probably has a better way

 

[Kiki]

I used a wood screw to make a safety hole in my gooses egg. But Kiki probably has a better way

Don't laugh.
I have only done this once or twice and I used a corn on the cob holder thing.
I found that it was easier to keep a good grip on.


I tried nails, screws and a tack. The corn on the cob thing worked best for me.