International Black Copper Marans Thread - Breeding to the SOP

[chickengr]

I have just found out that my cuckoo legbars are not legbars at all

they are some sort of easter egger hybrids. the guy who imported them from italy invested a lot of money in vain. he imported 1000 chicks and we now have fake legbars in greece. the italian cheater sold them as cream and cuckoo legbars.

1 of mine started to lay and luckily she lays nice dark green eggs. she is a keeper for my laying flock. these birds are real dual purpose chickens. they are big and chunky and these first eggs must be around 56-57 grams. I need to buy a battery for my scale but we are in lockdown so I cannot do it now.

 

[marchick]

I have just found out that my cuckoo legbars are not legbars at all

they are some sort of easter egger hybrids. the guy who imported them from italy invested a lot of money in vain. he imported 1000 chicks and we now have fake legbars in greece. the italian cheater sold them as cream and cuckoo legbars.

1 of mine started to lay and luckily she lays nice dark green eggs. she is a keeper for my laying flock. these birds are real dual purpose chickens. they are big and chunky and these first eggs must be around 56-57 grams. I need to buy a battery for my scale but we are in lockdown so I cannot do it now.

That's so sad that someone would do something like that. That must have cost him a fortune.

 

[chickengr]

That's so sad that someone would do something like that. That must have cost him a fortune.

and everyone else who bought chicks from him.

he had a big order from the same company (for different breeds). he cancelled it and said no more trading with italy. I hope they will learn the lesson.

 

[kcrandall]

I have just found out that my cuckoo legbars are not legbars at all

they are some sort of easter egger hybrids. the guy who imported them from italy invested a lot of money in vain. he imported 1000 chicks and we now have fake legbars in greece. the italian cheater sold them as cream and cuckoo legbars.

1 of mine started to lay and luckily she lays nice dark green eggs. she is a keeper for my laying flock. these birds are real dual purpose chickens. they are big and chunky and these first eggs must be around 56-57 grams. I need to buy a battery for my scale but we are in lockdown so I cannot do it now.

I have to believe that karma will pay that cheater a visit someday! So sorry this happened to you and the gentleman who imported the chicks.

 

[kcrandall]

Violet the long tail BC hen and 7 pullets from her where sold today. I still have 13 cockerels that will go in a week or so.
That will leave me 4 hens and 19 pullets left. One rooster and 4 cockerels.

Wise move - spend your feed $$ on your best birds!

 

[marchick]

Wise move - spend your feed $$ on your best birds!

It is difficult for me to know what to do. I always worry that I am going to regret culling and end up needing them. It really narrowed down the diversity in my flock. That really worries me!

 

[kcrandall]

It is difficult for me to know what to do. I always worry that I am going to regret culling and end up needing them. It really narrowed down the diversity in my flock. That really worries me!

I get where you’re coming from! I’ve been there too. I remember Rip Stalvey (APA and Marans Club Member) wrote an article titled 15 Things You Must Do To Become A Good Breeder, #8 on his list says “We must cull our birds rigorously. The tendency of most people is to keep too may birds. Don’t do it as it will only set you back! Remember the Rules of 10.”. Rule of 10 is that only 1 bird in 10 is good enough to keep. You have advanced your breeding program forward to the point that you now have to cull some really nice birds because you are only keeping your best. I’m not there yet but I can only imagine how strange it must be to be in that position because of the struggles it took to get to where you are now.

 

[marchick]

I get where you’re coming from! I’ve been there too. I remember Rip Stalvey (APA and Marans Club Member) wrote an article titled 15 Things You Must Do To Become A Good Breeder, #8 on his list says “We must cull our birds rigorously. The tendency of most people is to keep too may birds. Don’t do it as it will only set you back! Remember the Rules of 10.”. Rule of 10 is that only 1 bird in 10 is good enough to keep. You have advanced your breeding program forward to the point that you now have to cull some really nice birds because you are only keeping your best. I’m not there yet but I can only imagine how strange it must be to be in that position because of the struggles it took to get to where you are now.

Thank you, It is very hard to cull a bird that is better than every bird I had in my old lines. What makes it even more difficult is I might set my line back if I get rid of the wrong ones.

 

[Punkybrewster]

I have just found out that my cuckoo legbars are not legbars at all

they are some sort of easter egger hybrids. the guy who imported them from italy invested a lot of money in vain. he imported 1000 chicks and we now have fake legbars in greece. the italian cheater sold them as cream and cuckoo legbars.

1 of mine started to lay and luckily she lays nice dark green eggs. she is a keeper for my laying flock. these birds are real dual purpose chickens. they are big and chunky and these first eggs must be around 56-57 grams. I need to buy a battery for my scale but we are in lockdown so I cannot do it now.

Chicken fraud is real.
This is awful.
So there is nowhere else in Greece to get some?

 

[Punkybrewster]

I get where you’re coming from! I’ve been there too. I remember Rip Stalvey (APA and Marans Club Member) wrote an article titled 15 Things You Must Do To Become A Good Breeder, #8 on his list says “We must cull our birds rigorously. The tendency of most people is to keep too may birds. Don’t do it as it will only set you back! Remember the Rules of 10.”. Rule of 10 is that only 1 bird in 10 is good enough to keep. You have advanced your breeding program forward to the point that you now have to cull some really nice birds because you are only keeping your best. I’m not there yet but I can only imagine how strange it must be to be in that position because of the struggles it took to get to where you are now.

Well said @kcrandall