International Black Copper Marans Thread - Breeding to the SOP

[dvoice]

I'm working with what I could find.

That's all any of us can do!

 

[Red Banks]

Quote: They could be Black Copper Marans with no copper. Or did the breeder say they were black? There are a lot of BCM hens with no copper. It is okay.... you just don't want to breed black to BCM and then pass them off as BCM. None of my first Marans hens had any copper.

 

[Red Banks]

Quote: Does this look like your FRF pullet?

 

[Magnolia Hill]

They could be Black Copper Marans with no copper.  Or did the breeder say they were black?  There are a lot of BCM hens with no copper.  It is okay.... you just don't want to breed black to BCM and then pass them off as BCM.  None of my first Marans hens had any copper.

I was told they come from all bcm stock. I'm not really sure how all that works.

 

[Magnolia Hill]

I really have trust issues, I was told the 3 pullets come from the same parent stock. but I've been lied to before. what would happen if they are black marans and bread to a BCM?

 

[KF0002]

I really have trust issues, I was told the 3 pullets come from the same parent stock. but I've been lied to before. what would happen if they are black marans and bread to a BCM?

BCM bred to black would yield very overmelanized BCM offspring and would take a while to breed the black back out. If you use a nicely coppered BCM cock bred to black hens you would have to keep breeding the female offspring (daughters, granddaughters, and so on) back to the original sire BCM cock to breed out the black. You would have to keep doing that until they were no longer overmelanized.

 

[Magnolia Hill]

BCM bred to black would yield very overmelanized BCM offspring and would take a while to breed the black back out. If you use a nicely coppered BCM cock bred to black hens you would have to keep breeding the female offspring (daughters, granddaughters, and so on) back to the original sire BCM cock to breed out the black. You would have to keep doing that until they were no longer overmelanized.

mind my ignorance, but overmelanized? I've heard this term alot but what does it mean.

 

[KF0002]

Once the offspring start coming with adequate copper you can select the best of the offspring to breed together and those will be your brood stock. Choose two sets of the best cockerels and pullets and mate them separately so you have 2 groups so you can mate their offspring together. At that point you may wish to bring in an unrelated BCM cock to freshen your line and correct any issues. Chooksman can correct me if Im off on anything. This is how we have bred our games in the past when we want to breed back to a pure bloodline using only a pure cock. Its not quick and takes several years to achieve.

 

[Magnolia Hill]

can anyone post a picture of a overmelanized bird?

 

[Magnolia Hill]

well I'm only 29 and got 10 acres in the country, if the Lord wills it I'll have plenty of time and space to get this right. I just wish I could find some decent birds to start with.