International Black Copper Marans Thread - Breeding to the SOP

[Chooks man]

here are some of my Marans eggs along with some turkey and cream legbar eggs. Most are speckled too.

nice size / shape and color .

I think they are darker then they look in the photos ,even CLB eggs look almost white . you need to find a better angle

bottom corner in very beauty .

chooks man

 

[oregonkat]

Didn't know where to post this, but I am extremely interested in buying some fertilized BCM eggs from good stock this spring, so if anyone could lead me to someone, or offer to sell me some, that would be great!

Look on the Buy/Sell/Trade forum here and look for Brian Walden (I think), he is selling BCM eggs now. Good luck.

 

[KF0002]

parasitic white on the BCM and BLCM strain are comment and international .
to breed it out is going to take a while . you have to go step by step .

minimum white on the chicks hatch down is better not all black neither Penguiny .
a dots around the beak and the eyes are the hardest to bred out but they are not problematic as too match white on the wing and the chest

to correct the white fluff on the future progeny you have to mate your rooster ( with a white fluff) you need a hen with a pure dark under fluff NO grey

here some photos of the proper BCM chicks hatch down



I m finding out this type of chicks are free from a parasitic white and they have a rich coppery hackles. they are free from the white lacing normally you see in the infected BCM chicks .

chooks man

So far I have only hatched 3 chicks that have had no white (or just a tiny speck of white) on the face, one was just culled for severe splayed legs from hatch, one has a lot of middle toe feathering, and the 3rd was the chick I previously posted pics of (no middle toe feathering). She is sporting two blue bands! I stole the double banding of my keepers idea from you! Thanks for that.

I have a whole brooder full of Marans chicks now, but sadly most will not stay. I just got a 90% hatch rate on my last Marans hatch from yesterday though!

 

[KF0002]

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Here is a pic of one of my older LA cockerels. He has some minor middle toe feathering but this pic is just for reference. Does he have an acceptable amount of white? He does have some white feathers in his wings.

 

[KF0002]

Hey I have a question about BCM eggs I'm hoping some one here has an answer or thought....Ruby was hatched August of last year (2016) and has started laying this spring, for about 3 weeks. She gets Purina 16% layer feed, access to oyster shell, water, occasional treats like dried mealworms/corn/strawberry tops, grapes, plain greek yogurt-as well as free ranging time most every day. I have other hens that get the same everything, Ruby is my only BCM hen.

My question is: do BCMs normally have dark raised speckles? I've looked this up on here and they say its calcium deposits on the shell and could be due to tress or poor diet? I guess I don't see how that could be since like i said all my hens get the same everything and none of them has ever laid an abnormal egg and ALL of Ruby's eggs look this way. Is this just normal for a BCM? I do have 2 roosters, they'd be the only source of "stress" I can think of. But i've never noticed Ruby being more piked on or anything. I don't really see any hen being "picked" on honestly.

Just wondering if thats just the way BCM eggs are or not....

thanks for any help you can give!!

Two of my black copper pullets lay eggs as smooth as satin, no speckles/spots. But one lays a consistent #4 with dark brown slightly raised spots of color. They aren't calcium deposits, just thicker layers of color. Calcium deposits make an egg have a rough, gritty feel. She may just be getting all the kinks worked out with her egg laying. It sounds like she is very healthy and happy. No worries.

 

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First pip. End of day 20

 

[Chooks man]

So far I have only hatched 3 chicks that have had no white (or just a tiny speck of white) on the face, one was just culled for severe splayed legs from hatch, one has a lot of middle toe feathering, and the 3rd was the chick I previously posted pics of (no middle toe feathering). She is sporting two blue bands! I stole the double banding of my keepers idea from you! Thanks for that.

I have a whole brooder full of Marans chicks now, but sadly most will not stay. I just got a 90% hatch rate on my last Marans hatch from yesterday though!

how many chicks you managed to hatch ?

do no worry about a little white on the face as long as the body has less white .

it is going to take you quite some time to breed pure BCM with a proper hatch down . this trait has been neglected for a long long long time .I only know one marans breeder in France who start to take care of this problem

people are more interested in showing the chooks not properly breed them ,that why they energy is going .
show chooks only need to looki good before the second molt ( the best time to show them before the parasitic white take over ) does not mean they are pure( they can be F1/F2) or well bred free from any fault even the 95 point French chooks most of them are not that great year after the show.

we need to add depth to ours breeding program ,so the chooks will be stable line NOT from outward crossing .

for now take your time .hatch as many as you can . take note ,tag them .let grow and select the best one and get ready of the others .

chooks man

 

[Chooks man]

First pip. End of day 20

good luck

chooks man

 

[Chooks man]

Two of my black copper pullets lay eggs as smooth as satin, no speckles/spots. But one lays a consistent #4 with dark brown slightly raised spots of color. They aren't calcium deposits, just thicker layers of color. Calcium deposits make an egg have a rough, gritty feel. She may just be getting all the kinks worked out with her egg laying. It sounds like she is very healthy and happy. No worries.

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dark raised dot on the marans eggs are considered quality .

your hen has a good genes .

chooks man

 

[Chooks man]

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Here is a pic of one of my older LA cockerels. He has some minor middle toe feathering but this pic is just for reference. Does he have an acceptable amount of white? He does have some white feathers in his wings.

he look good to me . the white on the wing will go away most of the time .
his shanks feathered are free from the parasitic white . his face has a minimum .

I don think he is infected with a parasitic white ..but you have to wait tell he grow up and see how the tail feathers will be ( free from the white or not )

he is great type .I like him a lot .

chooks man