International Black Copper Marans Thread - Breeding to the SOP

[dvoice]

it is white I can see it from here down under OZ .

love her comb

chooks man

Chooks man. Will that white show in all offspring? Like I said earlier. 3 maybe 4 of my this batch of pullets are like this. Don't breed?

 

[KF0002]

"]I can't wait to see antonio's son!

Here he is at 7 weeks. Very hard to get these pictures. He isn't like Antonio, Antonio actually poses!

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He is so cute!! Love the pic of him with the dog! He looks so proud already, like Antonio. He looks so similar to my only remaining FRF cockerel except mine isn't near as nice so far. I have had horrible luck with my young FRF birds this year. The hawks seem to have a particular taste for them lately.. it's probably because they were my youngest.

Your cockerel is looking very promising. And I'm happy to see I'm not the only one who photographs her chickens in the house.

 

[Red Banks]

He is so cute!! Love the pic of him with the dog! He looks so proud already, like Antonio. He looks so similar to my only remaining FRF cockerel except mine isn't near as nice so far. I have had horrible luck with my young FRF birds this year. The hawks seem to have a particular taste for them lately.. it's probably because they were my youngest.

Your cockerel is looking very promising. And I'm happy to see I'm not the only one who photographs her chickens in the house. [/QUOTE]

Thank you Kayla, I hope he is half as nice as the cockerel of yours. I meant to write in my post that I brought him in the kitchen because you said that is the best way to get good pics! I know you like to put them on the kitchen counter, I just didn't have one free of clutter!

 

[Chooks man]

Looking at the pictures, I was wondering if they pulled a switch on me , but I swear, I only saw 1 at a time and thought it was the same one lol. Well, I guess I got both of them pictured then. Thank you for taking the time to critique them for me!

worked well for you .posted photos of both pullets without knowing .bonus

I do not critique chooks .
I only describe what I can see from the photos . and I give my own opinions in how they should be bred .

chooks man

 

[Chooks man]

Chooks man. Will that white show in all offspring? Like I said earlier. 3 maybe 4 of my this batch of pullets are like this. Don't breed?

it is just another fault like the rest .bad one but can be bred out as long as the Rooster has a pure red Earlobes .
marans chooks are a result of crossing the old French hens ( European breed white earlobes ) with a Asian Roosters ( Red Earlobe) . the breeders selected for the red earlobe as a dominant .
this fault will always show up as the result of the low of genetic ( Atavistic Return of the recessive genes ).
I m working with this problem in one of my own Birchen line , almost bred it out after 4 generation . still show up ,only few in this last generation F4 .
Never bred from the Rooster with a white earlobe .
you can breed from the pullet if they are great type and lay dark egg . or you are working with a specific line you don t want to add any thing to it.
you can do it if your back is against a wall .

a lot culling for about 2 or 3 generation .and always use a Rooster with a RED EARLOBE . make sure other wise you are worsting your time .

chooks man

 

[Chooks man]

I let my youngest pullets out of they coop .they liked they new run . a lot of shade

 

[dvoice]

it is just another fault like the rest .bad one but can be bred out as long as the Rooster has a pure red Earlobes .
marans chooks are a result of crossing the old French hens ( European breed white earlobes ) with a Asian Roosters ( Red Earlobe) . the breeders selected for the red earlobe as a dominant .
this fault will always show up as the result of the low of genetic ( Atavistic Return of the recessive genes ).
I m working with this problem in one of my own Birchen line , almost bred it out after 4 generation . still show up ,only few in this last generation F4 .
Never bred from the Rooster with a white earlobe .
you can breed from the pullet if they are great type and lay dark egg . or you are working with a specific line you don t want to add any thing to it.
you can do it if your back is against a wall .

a lot culling for about 2 or 3 generation .and always use a Rooster with a RED EARLOBE . make sure other wise you are worsting your time .

chooks man

Thanks. I guess I'll see what the next batch of pullets(14) looks like and then go from there. All eggs for the last month have looked like this. There was a cpl right at the beginning that were light and one has been laying about 1 shade lighter than these.

 

[Bantambird]

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Here is the white i see

There it is! I'm on mobile, so this photo helps a TON!
That's unfortunate there is color there....

 

[Red Banks]

There it is! I'm on mobile, so this photo helps a TON!
That's unfortunate there is color there....

There are no perfect birds, some faults are harder to eliminate than others but Chooks Man convinced me anything can be fixed eventually with his Silver Cuckoos. As a breeder the challenge is "fixing faults". It finally made sense to me. I wasn't going to buy perfect chickens, I had to make them as close to SOP as possible and I was never going to get anywhere if I kept culling every bird. My biggest regret was culling the most beautiful cockerel I have ever seen because he had a wry tail.

 

[chickengr]

There are no perfect birds, some faults are harder to eliminate than others but Chooks Man convinced me anything can be fixed eventually with his Silver Cuckoos. As a breeder the challenge is "fixing faults". It finally made sense to me. I wasn't going to buy perfect chickens, I had to make them as close to SOP as possible and I was never going to get anywhere if I kept culling every bird. My biggest regret was culling the most beautiful cockerel I have saw because he had a wry tail.

I know a feeling. one of 3 cockerels who has the best comb and nice colours has a wry tail