International Black Copper Marans Thread - Breeding to the SOP

[KF0002]

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Handsome has been fighting. The sun now sets as I'm coming home from work, and it's getting hard to take good pics right at the start of winter when they all act like big babies right now.
About the Marans x cream Legbars. Here is a sexlinked olive eggers pullet from my Marans cock Jack over cream legbar hens View attachment 1181681And here is a pullet from a random cream legbar cock who got in with my Marans hens during breeding seasonView attachment 1181682
So, as stated before, the sexlinked olive egger pullets are black. I had a commission to produce a batch of sexlinked olive eggers for a nice lady nearby.
View attachment 1181683 now I know the flash messed up this cockerel's eyes in the pic, but he has nice brilliant orange eyes. He is a son of Jack. In the J line I have, started with Jake and now continued with Jack, I've been fighting Carnation comb myself, but I am seeing progress. Before this thread, I was told to scrap the whole line. Thanks for helping me know for sure I wasn't wasting my time in working with what I have. This young cockerel was hatched in late June/early July, raised by the turkey hen he is roosting with here.

Boys will be boys! Hopefully all the riff raff will settle. They all want to be the boss. Lol

Your olive eggers are pretty! Have you gotten any eggs from them yet?

And your birchens are lovely too! Carnation comb is a recessive gene like the vulture hocks in my LA line of BCM. You just have to cull through the offspring as you breed to weed it out. I would never dream of scrapping my entire LA line of BCM because of the vulture hocks but I do cull any offspring that have it.

 

[Chooks man]

@Bantambird
this cockerel silver is stunning .love the purity of it .
nice almost white shoulder .BRAVO

chooks man

 

[KF0002]

they are stunning ,No no I ll say they are sublime .
you found one pair that work well together . keep hatching from them .don t change this pairing .
great type . Excellent for the pullet and the first cockerel

love they thick head . the trait I m always selecting for all the time .
nice tail and lovely long flat back .
nice hackle color coming through as well .

you done very well .
well proud of you .
your dedication and hard work start to pay of .
keep doing what you are doing .it is the right path .

Chooks man

Yay! Thank you! Im glad you like them. I have quite a few more in the brooders from that mating so I will take lots of pics when I let them out to free range. Apollo, their sire, has beautiful color, comb, and eye color but a high tail. The dam, #60 has good type and tail angle so Im really hoping these chicks grow out to look good when mature. Hopefully come springtime the worst of my high tails will be over.

 

[Hensndoes]

@Hensndoes

both cockerels are equally nice now at this age .
both have a good and a bad things . a difference is witch fault it easier for you to work with ?
looking at them from this photos I can see Chester in the back is elegant , holding him self at the right pose not goofy .well put together .well colorful .his tail is at the max height ,but has a nice shape and form ( elegant too )
the tail angle get inherited from both parent but the shape and the form are sex linked . mean Chester,s daughters will have a thin pointed tail for sure ,but the angle will come from mama hen too . so chose wisely .
Chester mated to any BC hen/ ,even black one will yield a colorful elegant looking pullets . show quality
his under fluff is correct too ,not washed out .
the mass will come from the hen is going to be mated too .

Sue .is bigger ,has a nicer tail . lucking a good color .
problem I see on him are more of the sex linked . has to be mated to a specific hen to yield a nice and correct pullets .
comb problem is from both parent . the hen will help to fix than ,but still a lot culling .
Lighter under fluff . nightmare . he need very dark hen to fix that .but on the same time this dark hen will produce a black pullets .
base of his tail is showing a white under fluff . nightmare .

to work with this cockerel you need a pen full a faultless BCM hens to help you produce some thing acceptable .

So for you to make a chose .you have to look at your pen and see what sort of hens you have to breed with .
they are the one to tell you witch cockerel is better for them .

Chester s future mate is easier to find any where ..Big BCM hen with a well angled tail ,that all.

Sue s future mate is harder to find . big hen . well colored with a extra copper on her chest . faultless comb . darker under fluff and free from any parasitic white . gorgeous eyes .
find me this en please ????????????????????? good luck

chooks man

Thanks Chooks! I kinda knew this was the answer. Just didn't know how hard it would be to correct the tail. Kind of sad Sue may go to the pot. Not easy to get rid of a roo but I have too many till we build another coop.

 

[Red Banks]

@kfelton0002
One more day!

 

[chickengr]

my exactly 6 mo (born 8th may!) pullet laid her first egg

flash is a bit strong but it is a nice spotty egg. I am very happy as this pullet comes from my friend's eggs and mr. roo was of unknown origin, never tested for the egg colour. she was hatched from #5.

 

[KF0002]

my exactly 6 mo (born 8th may!) pullet laid her first egg
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flash is a bit strong but it is a nice spotty egg. I am very happy as this pullet comes from my friend's eggs and mr. roo was of unknown origin, never tested for the egg colour. she was hatched from #5.

Yay! Congratulations! Its pretty!! First eggs are so exciting!

 

[Red Banks]

Yay! Congratulations! Its pretty!! First eggs are so exciting!

I always love picking up the eggs. I never get over the miracle of it.

 

[KF0002]

@kfelton0002
One more day!

I know! I just peeked in and only one egg has externally pipped so far (one of the longer eggs). The top of my Genesis is see through so I can monitor hatching progress. It's still early, so hopefully more will pip overnight.

 

[KF0002]

I set the eggs very late at night so day 21 doesn't technically start until late tomorrow night.