International Black Copper Marans Thread - Breeding to the SOP

[KF0002]

one egg is not enough to judge any chooks by .
need the first 20/30 to have a real idea of the true genetic make up of any marans pullet

chooks man.

I will give her some time and see if her eggs improve. Im not in any hurry.

 

[Red Banks]

I will give her some time and see if her eggs improve. Im not in any hurry.

Chooks man always brings you to this decision. It is almost funny how many times I see this happen (yes.... I know he does it to me too!). You reveal a fault and vow to take the bird out of your program. Very hard on your birds. Chooks man comes along and reminds you of the value of the bird, you see the wisdom of it and give the bird another chance. Remember where he is coming from..... he has changed some really bad lines into beauties. I like the little hen too!

 

[Red Banks]

I only have a few hens laying and it is so sporadic. I get 0-2 eggs a day, mostly 0.

 

[Red Banks]

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[Chooks man]

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very ,very nice and artistic .you are getting better with your handy work .Bravo

chooks man

 

[Chooks man]

Chooks man always brings you to this decision. It is almost funny how many times I see this happen (yes.... I know he does it to me too!). You reveal a fault and vow to take the bird out of your program. Very hard on your birds. Chooks man comes along and reminds you of the value of the bird, you see the wisdom of it and give the bird another chance. Remember where he is coming from..... he has changed some really bad lines into beauties. I like the little hen too!

@RedBanks
thank you for the kinds world .
I see the chooks from all the different angle .I m not a show judge but a breeder. for me each good gene if present in the chooks is a keeper .not a cull .
I can breed the fault out but I can not come out of the good gene from nothing just from the air .( not a magician ) first I need to find a good genes .some time there is only one good thing in the chooks but it is a good one ( great comb ,or great tail) the rest of the chook not good .So I have to keep the bird and capture the good and breed them true before they get lost .
each gene is very important to me . it is like building a house .each brick is important ,plus doors windows etc........... they are all necessary for the build .

my method of breeding chooks is .first ,capture all the goods traits and breed them true before I start breeding the bad thing out .

I m trying to keep the genetic diversity as well .very important for the future .

chooks man

 

[Red Banks]

very ,very nice and artistic .you are getting better with your handy work .Bravo

chooks man

The eggs are so much darker than they appear in photos!

 

[KF0002]

Chooks man always gets you to this decision. It is almost funny how many times I see this happen (yes.... I know he does it to me too!). You reveal a fault and vow to take the bird out of your program. Very hard on your birds. Chooks man comes along and reminds you of the value of the bird, you see the wisdom of it and give the bird another chance. Remember where he is coming from..... he has changed some really bad lines into beauties. I like the little hen too!

I am very hard on my birds, this is not new.

Gretchen actually laid again today. A normal shaped egg this time. It is a lovely deep russet shade and is very much like her mother's. So she stays in the breeding pen despite my nitpickiness and neurotic OCD mind.

I am recording egg size and color on the pullets I have up to breed. Gretchen's first egg (the long one) was only 55 grams even though it looked bigger. The egg she laid today was 58 grams.

 

[KF0002]

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It does look very artistic! And the different colors of the eggs, the uniqueness of each one from the deep chocolate brown egg on top, to the egg with dark speckles in the center, then the russet colored egg on the bottom, they all complement each other beautifully.

If it were in a frame, I so would hang it on my wall. Is that weird? lol

 

[Chooks man]

I am very hard on my birds, this is not new.

Gretchen actually laid again today. A normal shaped egg this time. It is a lovely deep russet shade and is very much like her mother's. So she stays in the breeding pen despite my nitpickiness and neurotic OCD mind.

I am recording egg size and color on the pullets I have up to breed. Gretchen's first egg (the long one) was only 55 grams even though it looked bigger. The egg she laid today was 58 grams.

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very nice color and sheen .
you see .you have to be passion with a chooks . 20/30 first eggs .no more no less .
she is a breeder in my book for sure . if you think she hasn t got the proper mass ,than breed her later ,so she can pile up some pounds .
because you are working on this line for the dark egg genes ,than gretchen is a breeder for sure . you need every chooks from that line to be safe and not loose any special genes .

breed Gretta s line for just the egg color .they are gorgeous and you are not going to regret it in the future .all your chooks are an asset to you .be wise in who you use them .
don t cull any thing yet ,multiply and keep all the genes possible tell you have a large number of chooks to select from and form many line to fix the problems .
we need to restore and fix before we start culling .culling is for the one they have a tone of chooks or the one s they luck the know how or they just they thing the show judges are going to walk in they yard .

create lines first and work within the line .it is more efficient and a proper way to do it .
we can not breed any thing true with out crossing the lines/strain .
line breeding is very important to maintain a healthy and high quality flock .

chooks man