International Black Copper Marans Thread - Breeding to the SOP

Remember, nature does the first round of culling for you by allowing only the strongest chicks to hatch and survive. My rule of thumb is, if a chick is not strong enough to pip on its own I don't intervene. In this case, it is best to allow nature to take its course and the chick will soon run out of oxygen inside the egg. It's hard to walk away I know, but it is best. The chick is too weak to pip for a reason and is likely deformed or has another issue you don't want.
I never would have agreed with this before my recent experience hatching. My chicks were scheduled to hatch Friday into Saturday but due to incubator issues, they started pipping and hatching Saturday into Sunday (Easter). By Sunday night, one that had been rocking quite a bit that morning was quiet...nothing. I candled it Sunday night and saw an internal pip. Figured I'd give it an artificial hole so that it could do it's thing during the night. But Monday morning, still nothing. All the other eggs had hatched the day prior so I knew something was up. It was definitely trying...had made a small amount of progress expanding hole in one spot but no further zipping. By almost noon the next day, it's peeps were growing fainter and it was moving less so I broke away some more shell so that it could finish the job. It took another half hour to get out and I could see as it tried that one leg wasn't being used much. Once it was out, I waited for it to right itself but it couldn't...20 minutes went by and I finally grabbed it to inspect under light in brooder. Rotated femur and slipped tendon. I'm relatively new to chickens so it took some time for me to really get an idea of what I was dealing with...in the meantime, I followed advice from more experienced chicken people to place in teacup to strengthen leg and hobble...but now in hindsight, I realized that only increased the poor little chick's pain :'( Once I figured out what I was really dealing with, I tried correcting the slipped tendon but it was hard to feel and from what I read, the rotated femur would compromise the joint in such a way that it might never fit....and the hock could rupture down the road. I was so sad to have to dispatch the sweet little thing and I couldn't help but think that if I had left the egg alone, it might have died more peacefully as oxygen slowly ran out. It's so hard to commit to the "I will never again intervene....." but right now, I think that that's the most humane way to go. I don't breed purebreds....our chicks we hatch are just barnyard mixes...some layers, some for meat and no real plan until we get our homestead. So I'm not worried about breeding for strength at the moment but I don't ever want to go through that experience again. For now, I think in the future, I'll let Nature take it's course and trust it's for the best. That sounds horrible...and I might go back on my word depending on the situation...but in this case, Nature would have been kinder than my attempts to help were :(
 
I always let nature take it's course with chickens. In my own experience and what I have read on BYC there is seldom a good and lasting recovery. I also will not let one sick chicken threaten the health of the flock..... that is nature's course. You have to get thick skinned with chickens, they are not like dogs, cats, horses..... etc. My heart does hurt for the poor sick/injured creature.
 
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This little one was just a late hatcher. She doesn't seem unhealthy. The others had a couple day head start. They where all picking on the new chick on the block. So I felt it best keep them seperated for a couple days. The last egg showing life didn't hatch.

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This little one was just a late hatcher. She doesn't seem unhealthy. The others had a couple day head start. They where all picking on the new chick on the block. So I felt it best keep them seperated for a couple days. The last egg showing life didn't hatch.

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They are so cute. Love the chicks! She will catch up!
 
@marchick
I did another dumb thing tonight. Since you have mentioned you want to put all your cockerels/roosters in one pen, let me tell you what not to do. I started thinking like a human, feeling sorry for the poor boys. The pullets were all in their coop so I shut the door on them and let the cockerels and Tony2 out. Well..... I have created a terrible situation and I can only pray that after they sleep on it they will all get along again in the Bachelor coop. Tony2 went at it with Antonio, the other cockerels were fighting with each other. I grabbed Tony2 from behind and put him in a little empty coop. He was so strung up I didn't want him with my young cockerels. I herded the 7 cockerels back in their coop. There have been a few minor skirmishes but no real battles since I locked them back up. Every thing was so peaceful up until my dumb move. All the cockerels and Tony2 coexisted perfectly until today. Antonio had his 10 hens and the pullets were left in peace. What this means for me if things don't return to the way they were before my dumb move is a lot of work. I don't want the cockerels tearing each other up either. It means I will have to rehome/cull sooner. I had good intentions but you know where they take you.
 
@marchick
I did another dumb thing tonight. Since you have mentioned you want to put all your cockerels/roosters in one pen, let me tell you what not to do. I started thinking like a human, feeling sorry for the poor boys. The pullets were all in their coop so I shut the door on them and let the cockerels and Tony2 out. Well..... I have created a terrible situation and I can only pray that after they sleep on it they will all get along again in the Bachelor coop. Tony2 went at it with Antonio, the other cockerels were fighting with each other. I grabbed Tony2 from behind and put him in a little empty coop. He was so strung up I didn't want him with my young cockerels. I herded the 7 cockerels back in their coop. There have been a few minor skirmishes but no real battles since I locked them back up. Every thing was so peaceful up until my dumb move. All the cockerels and Tony2 coexisted perfectly until today. Antonio had his 10 hens and the pullets were left in peace. What this means for me if things don't return to the way they were before my dumb move is a lot of work. I don't want the cockerels tearing each other up either. It means I will have to rehome/cull sooner. I had good intentions but you know where they take you.
Isn't it funny how one little thing can throw everything out of whack with roosters. Like a rooster that I had he was a friendly older rooster. I had him for 2-3 years. Made a wrong move backed up and bumped him. He then attacked me every time I went into the pen. I hope your roosters go back to the way they where.
 
Ok guys, I’m on day 20 of my Marans. I had a few CLB cross eggs mixed in. Well one hatched this am. Since then my humidity is rising above where I like. Should I allow more air in to reduce humidity or will it drop as the chick dries? Btw I did open and humidity has dropped to around 65% just wondering going forward. TIA.
 
Doing a test run in my Instant Pot today with a store bought chicken. I know they will not be the same texture wise, but I wanted to cook for my sister and have't butchered my roosters yet. But it will be soon. ;)

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Ok guys, I’m on day 20 of my Marans. I had a few CLB cross eggs mixed in. Well one hatched this am. Since then my humidity is rising above where I like. Should I allow more air in to reduce humidity or will it drop as the chick dries? Btw I did open and humidity has dropped to around 65% just wondering going forward. TIA.
This happened to me the humidity was too high. LA is like FL. Humid. I took the chicks out as they hatched and put them in a brooder, they were soaking wet. I did not add any water.
 
Isn't it funny how one little thing can throw everything out of whack with roosters. Like a rooster that I had he was a friendly older rooster. I had him for 2-3 years. Made a wrong move backed up and bumped him. He then attacked me every time I went into the pen. I hope your roosters go back to the way they where.
Thank goodness..... everything went back to normal. I did notice that I have an amazing looking cockerel in this group. Fingers crossed he doesn't fall apart.
 

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