International Black Copper Marans Thread - Breeding to the SOP

[chickengr]

my silver/golden dark cuckoo cockerel 8 month old .big boy .he think he own the place .super gentle .View attachment 1747530
love the way he walks .free from any deformity . lovely and correct body type
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named him Bahima.

I ll be using him a lot .
chooks man

my friend in north greece probably has a black golden cuckoo pair. should I get a pullet from her to work with in the future?

how difficult is to get rid of gold leakage?

 

[Chooks man]

my stupid computer is blocking my camera so I cannot download the photos.

I'll try to explain:

both hens look the same, nice type and small low tails. 1 is lighter in weight and has little breast but is not skinny. the other one is from the photo you saw and told me to get her. she is heavy and has a lot of breast. but she has twisted comb. at least it is small and the back part is raised from her head. the lighter hen has small, straight comb, raised from her head but dents are not well serrated.

the elegant roo is somewhat tall. he has some red leakage and about 3 white feathers. his tail is tall but I hope the hens will fix it. he takes good care of the flock. my (laying) hens accepted him without hesitation. the other roo is (in my opinion) better. he is almost pure silver with more silver hackles. he has 2 tiny red spots - leakage and only 1 white feather in his tail. his tail is 45 degrees. first thing he did in the morning was to challenge my araucana roo through the wire. he spent about half day doing that. but when the gate accidentally opened the elegant guy had a fight with araucana. luckily they separated and each stayed in his run. I went there when it was over. even blood on their combs dried out.

I plan to keep these 2 pairs with my laying hens so that the girls don't get overmated. they are the only marans in that flock so easy to pick up their eggs. unfortunately their eggs are #4. I wonder if they can get darker as all of them are from the same flock.

very good my friend .
love to hear heavy hen ,the comb will come later .type and mass are more important .#4 egg colour is OK .can be improved with selective breeding in the future generation .
work first with a pure silver cuckoo cockerel . if they have red leakage ,than they are not a pure cuckoo ,they are a cross between BC and a Silver cuckoo. do know what generation .

chooks man

 

[Chooks man]

my friend in north greece probably has a black golden cuckoo pair. should I get a pullet from her to work with in the future?

how difficult is to get rid of gold leakage?

if the pullet lay dark eggs ,is ok to get them other wise you don t need them .
they will not help you to breed the birchen . you have a silver based bird ,that what you need .

to clear the Autossoml red ,you need many generation of selective breeding . always select a cockerels with a pure silver to work with .
keep them separate and breed them together to see if they carry any hidden recessive genes .

chooks man

 

[Chooks man]

my stupid computer is blocking my camera so I cannot download the photos.

I'll try to explain:

both hens look the same, nice type and small low tails. 1 is lighter in weight and has little breast but is not skinny. the other one is from the photo you saw and told me to get her. she is heavy and has a lot of breast. but she has twisted comb. at least it is small and the back part is raised from her head. the lighter hen has small, straight comb, raised from her head but dents are not well serrated.

the elegant roo is somewhat tall. he has some red leakage and about 3 white feathers. his tail is tall but I hope the hens will fix it. he takes good care of the flock. my (laying) hens accepted him without hesitation. the other roo is (in my opinion) better. he is almost pure silver with more silver hackles. he has 2 tiny red spots - leakage and only 1 white feather in his tail. his tail is 45 degrees. first thing he did in the morning was to challenge my araucana roo through the wire. he spent about half day doing that. but when the gate accidentally opened the elegant guy had a fight with araucana. luckily they separated and each stayed in his run. I went there when it was over. even blood on their combs dried out.

I plan to keep these 2 pairs with my laying hens so that the girls don't get overmated. they are the only marans in that flock so easy to pick up their eggs. unfortunately their eggs are #4. I wonder if they can get darker as all of them are from the same flock.

I think you should separate the 2 new hens from each other for a few weeks tell you get used to they eggs .
you need to know which hen lay what . very important other wise you can not practice selective breeding and back crossing .
I m interested in the big hen for a type and mass . need cockerels from her to start her line .

chooks man

 

[Chooks man]

@chickengr
because your computer doesn t let post photos . here what we need to do .so I can help you breeding those new chooks .

fill up this form for me please .

Cockerel#1 Elegant = Cockerel#2 silver hackle =
Body type =
Mass=
head=
eyes =
Comb =
Tail =
Back =
Shanks and feet =
Chest =
shoulder width =

compare the 2 for me. because I need to know them well . what area each cockerel excel .
do the same thing for the 2 hens .

all the best

chooks man

 

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here some photos of French marans chooks .from France .Marans Club de France Magazine #72 Mai 2017. very pretty chooks

 

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@chickengr
this one is for you .golden salmon marans
notice how small is her tail .pointed too .that what I breed for .
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@marchick and @Bantambird . those for you guys .
Silver Black and Silver Blue

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those marans are my standard . I want my marans to look like them .
I m lucky I can read and speak French , very helpful for my marans breeding programs .
chooks man