IS there a semi-safe way to use RAT poison around DOGS????

[eggaday]

Thank you for your information. I just want to clarify something though: you are right that if a dog ingests a small amount of anticoagulant (rat poison) and you find it in time the dog can be cured with an injection of vitamin k. However the active ingredient in 'just one bite' is bromethalin which is not an anti coagulant but rather works on the nervous system of whoever eats it. This is deadly to a dog whether the dog eats the poison or the dead rat. (yuck) Further, the anti coagulants are often flavored to make them appealing to rats. This is horrible as it makes them appealing to dogs too! The 'just one bite' has a bittering agent and is bright green with the hope that they don't taste attractive to dogs (or children) and that the bright green gives an alert to humans. I hate to use any poison but i know i wil have a huge problem if i don't deal with it asap. I will report back on my rat scat plan....hope it works!

 

[thundercloud2]

Not sure if you will see this so far later. If the rat has eaten the poison, the dog or other pet that might "get the rat" is actually much safer than you think. The pet ill not ingest enough of poisoned rat to do haarm. Obviously you want to keep your eyes peeled, too many snack rats is another story (ew). I had rats and have 4 dogs. What we do is watch for the rats do our best to get the bodies before the dogs and keep vitamin k around. If your dog should ingest some force feed it half a cap of peroxide, this makes the dog vomit and then start giving them doses of vitamin k this binds to the poison and they poo it out . Poison the rats, theey have rabies, worse for your pets!

 

[Michael Apple]

If your dog should ingest some force feed it half a cap of peroxide, this makes the dog vomit

The dosage for peroxide to induce vomiting is .5 ml per 10 lbs of body weight. I kept that information from a vet ever since my dog stole a dark chocolate cake off the kitchen counter once, eating the entire cake. It was all regurgitated within about 20 minutes. Keeping a local emergency vet contact posted is always a good idea to consult with in an emergency.

I've baited my barn with bait chunx within lockable box traps for a number of years. I do not use poison pellets since they can be spread around outside of box traps. The chunx are made with a hole in the center, slipped over and held vertically with a steel rod within the trap so rats have to go inside to feed. If one desires the extra protection, there are baits made by Motomco and other companies that do not have what is called a "secondary kill factor". Limiting stacks of items against walls and keeping the premises clean prevents a comfortable environment for rats to seek refuge and make nests. Changing baits every so often encourages them to consume it and control/eliminate the population.

 

[hannihooni]

This information has been very helpful-our neighbor with Alzheimer's has a large rat population in his shed-we have trapped 10 so far-it just doesn't stop. We are at the end of our ropes. We also have dogs in addition to chickens. I hate to resort to poison-but I just can't imagine how many rats are living in the shed (which is on our fence line).

 

[6of6chicks]

Try a nice poison that comes in a cake or solid bars called JustOneBite....I swear that all your rats will be dead in a matter of a few days. They will crawl out of the buildings looking for water and you will find them dead, lying everywhere. It only takes a few days and you can keep your dogs confined for that long.

I just keep the poison in the enclosed buildings where my other animals cannot gain access and my cats and dogs won't have anything to do with the dead animals...your dogs may be different, so I would just keep them confined until the process is over.

This poison cannot be carried away to nests and stored...they have to nibble it off the bar in order to eat it. It never fails me.

After you have taken care of this batch of rats, try it again in a week or so to get any stragglers. Then get yourself some barn cats and don't overfeed them!

Good luck!

Just FYI, but they can carry it away to nests. My barn was infested with rats - big giant ones that just stopped and stared brazenly at me when I opened the door. I finally resorted to the cake poison. It definitely works - they were all dead in a matter of days. However - I found the cakes in two separate nests far away from where I had put the poison. Momma rat had indeed carried it back to the babies, all of which were piled up dead around what was left of the cake.

Make sure you do a thorough sweep of anywhere your dogs can get to. This poster's dogs may not have wanted the dead rats, but my stupid dog (I say that with love) thinks dead rodents are a delicacy. I've caught her noshing on the remains of skunk, raccoon, snakes, birds, and rats (all in various stages of decomp). She'd think nothing of scarfing down a dead rat, poison and all. And I DID find a dead rat in the yard after I put poison in the barn. I was scared silly for weeks that my dog would find another corpse I had missed.

Not saying don't use poison, just be extra careful with your dogs.

 

[6of6chicks]

The dosage for peroxide to induce vomiting is .5 ml per 10 lbs of body weight. I kept that information from a vet ever since my dog stole a dark chocolate cake off the kitchen counter once, eating the entire cake. It was all regurgitated within about 20 minutes. Keeping a local emergency vet contact posted is always a good idea to consult with in an emergency.

I went through this as well with one of my dogs (1 year old lab). She ate an old roach bait in the garage, and the emergency vet advised me to do the peroxide treatment. Obviously call your own vet in any emergency, but there's a little more to it than just the peroxide. After dosing my dog I was told to take her outside and "spin" her. For my 70 lb. puppy that meant putting her on a leash and pulling her around in tight circles (like she was chasing her tail). It took about 10 minutes before she started to vomit, but once she did it went on for HOURS. Peroxide foams, and it keeps on foaming inside & out. Poor thing kept wobbling around the yard, falling over and puking. And no, I didn't overdose her - I followed the emergency vet to the letter. She warned me - I just wasn't prepared for THAT! Just FYI if you have to go through it yourself - it's messy and alarming. Cheaper than the trip to the vet, though.

 

[Folly's place]

Dogs will eat ANYTHING! They will eat bromethalin, and have a very poor chance of survival. It's bad stuff! I have used third generation warfarin, after locking up my dogs, barn cat, and chickens, and letting the next door neighbor know. After the bait no longer disappeared (4 to 5 days later) I picked it all up, waited a couple of more days, and let everyone out. I never saw a dead rat or mouse during this time, and had them waving at me during the day before! I captured a few juvenile rats in the water bucket trap, and my barn cat felt that rats were my problem, not his. That's been three years ago, and I now feed only in the run and coop, so much less food available. Never have seen rat sign again. Mary

 

[leaeves]

So what do you do about annoying squirrels? Will they eat rat posion?

 

[sbhkma]

Lead poison works well for squirrels.

 

[dawg53]

Lead poison works well for squirrels.

x2. Nothing like fried squirrel in the skillet!