Is this animal abuse?

[CHlCKEN]

Leaving a goat teathered for their safety isn't wrong. Neither is keep ing chickens in a coop and run 24/7

I mean keeping a chicken confined to a coop. I don’t think it’s okay to leave a goat tied to something all day every day. Do you want to be tied to something every day?

 

[NatJ]

a small pen about 13 by 13 pen

13 of WHAT each way? Feet? Meters? Pieces of fence?

What measurement makes a BIG difference.
13 x 13 meters is more than 10 times as much space as 13 x 13 feet.

 

[black_cat]

13 of WHAT each way? Feet? Meters? Pieces of fence?

What measurement makes a BIG difference.
13 x 13 meters is more than 10 times as much space as 13 x 13 feet.

That is a good point.

 

[JacinLarkwell]

If you have 1-2 square feet per goat, you have a problem. It's like having 1/4 square foot per chicken in a chicken coop.

No, I'll agree they need more space. But I don't agree that an animal is being neglected just because they're tethered

 

[black_cat]

No, I'll agree they need more space. But I don't agree that an animal is being neglected just because they're tethered

I agree with that as long as their tethered with a long enough tether.

 

[JacinLarkwell]

I agree with that as long as their tethered with a long enough tether.

Our tethers for goats were about 4-6 feet long, but they could walk in a whole circle and graze. They were always eager to go out on them though so they must not have been thinking it was too short

 

[Weeg]

Hobbling and tethering are two completely different things. IMO, hobbling constantly is neglect, and tethering is not.
A tethered goat-

Hobbled goat-

A hobble is a rope, or band that binds the legs together so they can't move quickly. Keeping an animal like this constantly is neglect.
Another hobble-

 

[Weeg]

@Fluffy_the_chicken are the goats hobbled or tethered? Hope this gets figured out!

 

[JacinLarkwell]

Hobbling and tethering are two completely different things. IMO, hobbling constantly is neglect, and tethering is not.
A tethered goat-
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Hobbled goat-
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A hobble is a rope, or band that binds the legs together so they can't move quickly. Keeping an animal like this constantly is neglect.
Another hobble-
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I agree. If they're hobbled, that's not cool in my book, but usually that's left for horses, plus it's just not very common anymore. That's why I originally wanted clarification

 

[SulkyBantam]

I agree. If they're hobbled, that's not cool in my book, but usually that's left for horses, plus it's just not very common anymore. That's why I originally wanted clarification

One of the moat neglectful things though is leaving them dead in the poem. Who knows what they dies of , disease, starvation... in any case it's neglect at least.