Add me to the "I feel sick" club. I cannot imagine cheering my dog on while taking pictures of it killing something but that is just me.
Jack Russell Terrier vs. Coon - Fight Photos & Dead Predator
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For some, that's what dogs are for. Not all dogs are kept solely for companionship and cuddling. Some of them actually have work to do. If the camera's handy, why not?
For some, that's what dogs are for. Not all dogs are kept solely for companionship and cuddling. Some of them actually have work to do. If the camera's handy, why not?
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For some, that's what dogs are for. Not all dogs are kept solely for companionship and cuddling. Some of them actually have work to do. If the camera's handy, why not?
Because I don't take pleasure in watching anything get hurt or die, let alone documenting it for kicks. But like I said, that is just me. Plenty of people get their jollies from it or find some sort of satisfaction in it. I don't so I wouldn't. To each their own though...
For some, that's what dogs are for. Not all dogs are kept solely for companionship and cuddling. Some of them actually have work to do. If the camera's handy, why not?
Because I don't take pleasure in watching anything get hurt or die, let alone documenting it for kicks. But like I said, that is just me. Plenty of people get their jollies from it or find some sort of satisfaction in it. I don't so I wouldn't. To each their own though...
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For some, that's what dogs are for. Not all dogs are kept solely for companionship and cuddling. Some of them actually have work to do. If the camera's handy, why not?
I've got a working dog, but I don't record his actions because of liability
For some, that's what dogs are for. Not all dogs are kept solely for companionship and cuddling. Some of them actually have work to do. If the camera's handy, why not?
I've got a working dog, but I don't record his actions because of liability
Title says "Fight Photos & Dead Predator"
If you don't like it, don't click on it.
Great dog!
If you don't like it, don't click on it.
Great dog!
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I understand how you feel. The first time my lab got hold of a possum, I started to break it up and kill it quickly with my axe. That would have been the most humane thing.
I hesitated. What if my lab caught a critter when I wasn't around? Could she finish the job? She needed to learn how to follow through and kill it herself, since that is what I would want her to do if I wasn't there to help. She needed to learn, and she needed to get the primal satisfaction of the actual kill. And I think that latter point is actually the most important.
I once read about a big actor, an action star, who got in a real bar fight and got his tail whupped because he couldn't stop pulling his punches during the real thing. We shouldn't want our protectors to learn to "pull their punches".
So, I think the OP did exactly the right thing. Let the little guy do his job and take great pictures for us.
I understand how you feel. The first time my lab got hold of a possum, I started to break it up and kill it quickly with my axe. That would have been the most humane thing.
I hesitated. What if my lab caught a critter when I wasn't around? Could she finish the job? She needed to learn how to follow through and kill it herself, since that is what I would want her to do if I wasn't there to help. She needed to learn, and she needed to get the primal satisfaction of the actual kill. And I think that latter point is actually the most important.
I once read about a big actor, an action star, who got in a real bar fight and got his tail whupped because he couldn't stop pulling his punches during the real thing. We shouldn't want our protectors to learn to "pull their punches".
So, I think the OP did exactly the right thing. Let the little guy do his job and take great pictures for us.
Go, Dog, Go!
I hope this will not offend animal lovers but when we had outdoor cats I always praised them when they caught a mouse and killed it (and snakes too). I never liked to watch a mouse suffer if the cat played with it before killing it and I am pretty sure OP was not implying that she actually enjoyed watching it.
But it was in the dogs breeding/instincts to erradicate small varmit. Cats are what alot of folks keep in their barns/yards to stem the rodent population. And dogs are not only kept for their loving personalities and stylish good looks. Some folks do keep them around for protection for them and theirs.
Although I felt really bad when our cats got a bird. THen it was just plain wrong. Bad Kitty! (...........unless I could somehow train the cat to catch a hawk! Hmmmmmm.....LOL)
I hope this will not offend animal lovers but when we had outdoor cats I always praised them when they caught a mouse and killed it (and snakes too). I never liked to watch a mouse suffer if the cat played with it before killing it and I am pretty sure OP was not implying that she actually enjoyed watching it.
But it was in the dogs breeding/instincts to erradicate small varmit. Cats are what alot of folks keep in their barns/yards to stem the rodent population. And dogs are not only kept for their loving personalities and stylish good looks. Some folks do keep them around for protection for them and theirs.
Although I felt really bad when our cats got a bird. THen it was just plain wrong. Bad Kitty! (...........unless I could somehow train the cat to catch a hawk! Hmmmmmm.....LOL)
Titus deserves a big cookie or a bone.. or whatever you spoil him with.
forbit a dog does what he has been bred for.
Its a predator and pests forum.. If you cant handle it .. then dont open the thread.
I am sure she didnt take the pictures to get her jollys off..I think its a good documentation for people to see how good of a dog and protector that little dude really is. Bet your sweet banana I would be out there with a camera to document it myself. That dog has guts ...Good boy
And not like she could have gotten in betwen the fight and taken care of the coon or shoot the coon.She would have prolly missed the coon and hit the dog by accident.
forbit a dog does what he has been bred for.
Its a predator and pests forum.. If you cant handle it .. then dont open the thread.
I am sure she didnt take the pictures to get her jollys off..I think its a good documentation for people to see how good of a dog and protector that little dude really is. Bet your sweet banana I would be out there with a camera to document it myself. That dog has guts ...Good boy
And not like she could have gotten in betwen the fight and taken care of the coon or shoot the coon.She would have prolly missed the coon and hit the dog by accident.
I don't feel sick but I do feel the pictures and story paint chicken owners in a negative light. We are going to get hammered one day for the way we openly speak about how we act when it comes to predator control and when the animal rights groups decide that chicken owners need to be taken to task they will find plenty of ammunition on this forum. I have no problem with you letting your terrier handle the predator but I don't need to know about it or see pictures of it (on a public forum)
Do you folks know how I take care of predators? Do i shoot them, do poison them? Do I relocate them? Do I try to live in harmony with them and reinforce the heck out of run and chicken house? Do I release my hounds? Do I trap them? Do you know how many predators I've killed or trapped? The answer is that you honestly don't know, nor do you. I have experience trapping bears professionally, trapping for myself as a sportsman, experience with a wide variety of sporting arms, coyote fox and bear behavior, etc etc and will freely offer up from my experience but as for cataloging my predator kills on an open forum well...I 'm not going to do that. Folks have come down on me for being against shooting them, for poisoning them, etc. The fact is you don't know my feelings on shooting them or poisoning or trapping them etc etc. If you read my posts I don't a problem with the shooting of dogs(maybe the exception as I think folks go to quickly to that solution but I respect that's a personal and situational decision) and predators, the poisoning , the poison recipes, etc. I have a problem with the shootings, poison recipes, etc being talked about in an open public forum. Hound hunters have already had thier own posts used against them. Entire investigative operations have started based on a pattern seen in posts on websites devoted to hounds. Yep and hound hunting and having backyard chickens are too different things and don't match up. Don't betcha- when it comes to the killing of dogs, cute little skunks, fox in your back yard or fox by guns in front of hounds they are very much two in the same in this respect. I want to raise and run my hounds in peace. The places I choose to run them are based on where i will have the least amount of problems, the least chance to get onto someone elses land or onto a highway or to bring attention to me running them in the first place. My hounds and my chickens are my relaxation. I don't want my neighbors, my town, or some well intentioned group of busiebodies who relate better to animals than people interrupting that relaxation. I view the predator and pest forum as a very real and plausable threat to my enjoyment, even my very right, to own chickens. Not really mad about it, not really juding anyone's pictures. I was impressed with the terrier myself, I just don't think we are looking outside of our own members in terms of impact and how this is viewed and I think that will ultimately cost us. I do apologize to those I have come in conflict with in the past. I honestly harbor no ill will towards any of you. Peace, Keystonepaul
Do you folks know how I take care of predators? Do i shoot them, do poison them? Do I relocate them? Do I try to live in harmony with them and reinforce the heck out of run and chicken house? Do I release my hounds? Do I trap them? Do you know how many predators I've killed or trapped? The answer is that you honestly don't know, nor do you. I have experience trapping bears professionally, trapping for myself as a sportsman, experience with a wide variety of sporting arms, coyote fox and bear behavior, etc etc and will freely offer up from my experience but as for cataloging my predator kills on an open forum well...I 'm not going to do that. Folks have come down on me for being against shooting them, for poisoning them, etc. The fact is you don't know my feelings on shooting them or poisoning or trapping them etc etc. If you read my posts I don't a problem with the shooting of dogs(maybe the exception as I think folks go to quickly to that solution but I respect that's a personal and situational decision) and predators, the poisoning , the poison recipes, etc. I have a problem with the shootings, poison recipes, etc being talked about in an open public forum. Hound hunters have already had thier own posts used against them. Entire investigative operations have started based on a pattern seen in posts on websites devoted to hounds. Yep and hound hunting and having backyard chickens are too different things and don't match up. Don't betcha- when it comes to the killing of dogs, cute little skunks, fox in your back yard or fox by guns in front of hounds they are very much two in the same in this respect. I want to raise and run my hounds in peace. The places I choose to run them are based on where i will have the least amount of problems, the least chance to get onto someone elses land or onto a highway or to bring attention to me running them in the first place. My hounds and my chickens are my relaxation. I don't want my neighbors, my town, or some well intentioned group of busiebodies who relate better to animals than people interrupting that relaxation. I view the predator and pest forum as a very real and plausable threat to my enjoyment, even my very right, to own chickens. Not really mad about it, not really juding anyone's pictures. I was impressed with the terrier myself, I just don't think we are looking outside of our own members in terms of impact and how this is viewed and I think that will ultimately cost us. I do apologize to those I have come in conflict with in the past. I honestly harbor no ill will towards any of you. Peace, Keystonepaul
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Either side of the coin should be allowed to state their opinion as long as it doesn't violate the UA.
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