Jack Russell Terrier vs. Coon - Fight Photos & Dead Predator

[grandmaof5]

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I agree with Keystonepaul here, on everything he said.

I think sometimes we forget that dogs are animals, not babies. I have a toy poodle and to my embarassment, I must admit he is babied and coddled. As much as I care for him, and wouldn't want anything to hurt him, he is an animal not a person. If my 'job' is to feed him and see that his vaccinations are up to date, his is to provide companionship. He barks when someone comes to the door, thus providing me notification if someone is around. If he were a terrior, I would expect that he would 'go to ground' when needed. If I had a collie, I would expect herding behaviours. When we don't know the breed we have, we are often looking for trouble. I have had acquaintances who've had JRTs who couldn't handle them and the poor dogs had to be re-homed after a year or so...bad owner! I've known friends who had a corgi who 'nipped' at people in the yard; again, a herding behaviour that was 'bred' into the dog but was unacceptable in a suburban yard. Again these people gave the dog away after it 'nipped' a child's leg....again BAD owner. Dogs are suppose to work, and if we take that away from them, they become frustrated and often the characteristics of the breed will come out when we least expect it. This is not the fault of the dog, rather lack of training by the person. When humankind chose to have dogs as companions, it was out of a mutual need...theirs and ours. It behooves us to remember that.

I do not like 'senseless' killing, but this was not senseless nor random. It was a dog doing (well) what it was supposed to do. The original poster's dog is today a happier dog, doing what he knows he was made for. If the interloper had been a man with a gun intent on murder, would it have been viewed any differently?

As for the owner 'cheering on' her dog, well done for letting him know he was doing the right thing by his owners.

I don't want to engage in an argument here, but I read the title and had an idea of the thread before I chose to read it. Even in a chicken forum, there is talk of killing (doesn't anyone eat their chickens?). Is it because this killing was unplanned and 'natural' that some object? If the OP had called her dog off, does anyone think the raccoon would have thought "gee, I'm glad that dog left me alone, I should run away now"...NOT! That 'coon would have killed the dog in an instant if given a chance, THEN gone for anything else it could have.

I am not a country girl with a 'good ole boy' attitude toward killing, and I was a vegetarian for many years before returning to a life of an omnivore, so I don't believe I have an unrealistic view of killing. I see this as an 'either/or' situation...it was not a romp through the woods looking for something to kill, it was a reaction to an intruder.

Well done to dog and owner. Btw, I think my 4lb poodle would have attacked as well, and probably not have had quite a good outcome...

 

[backdoorchicken]

awesome work titus

 

[bills]

I have a Fox Terrier, who has never been in a fight of any kind, with dogs or otherwise. He's 12 years old now, still very active, but may not have the stamina he used to.

I worry about him when he goes out for his nightly pee, in case he runs into a big coon. I hope he has the sense to simply tree it, so I can deal with it.

There is a black bear in the neighborhood, robbing fruit trees of which I have several. I haven't seen him in my yard yet, (and hope I don't). I wonder what my dog would do if he ran into a bear..yikes!

Good on Titus, glad to see he came out of it in good health!

 

[possumqueen]

I agree with keystonepaul in that we run a risk of a faceoff with PETA on this website. But I also agree with everyone who has said, "We are entitled to our opinions," or "The posting was clearly labelled in advance and you didn't have to open it."

This is one of the most carefully, thoughtfully run websites I have EVER seen. When the hatchery postings got out of hand they were stopped. I myself let slip a less than acceptable word in a posting once, and when I submitted the post the word had automatically been changed to a better one. I learned my lesson and I won't do that again -- I hope. I'm not the brightest bulb in the box sometimes.

I looked at the fight pictures with the same mixed feelings as keystonepaul. I'm not a hunter like he is, but I've kept JRTs and rat killers, and as a former animal control officer I understand raccoons and dog/wildlife encounters. And I'm not a vegetarian.

I do think we need to be careful. But I also think we need to be free to say what we think on this website -- in this country -- and we need to listen to each other with respect and disagree with courtesy.

This entire thread is a fine example of that.

 

[Buster52]

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Let 'em come.

I'm an animal rights activist, myself. I believe animals have rights. To live safely, be treated humanely, fed properly by their owners, and to be dispatched in a clean, humane manner when it comes time. It is because of all this that I am working toward self-sufficiency. I know how my animals were treated while they were alive, and how they will die when they do. I don't want to eat meat that comes from animals that were mistreated during their lifetimes.

I also believe even wild animals have rights. The right to live in the wild as long as they aren't trying to kill or harm my animals. That is one reason why I have dogs. They act as deterrents, to keep the varmints away so I don't have to kill them when they try to get to my critters.

But when that deterrent doesn't work and the beasties get through my defenses anyway, my dogs or I will kill them, quickly and humanely as we possibly can. To not do so would be cruel to the animals under my care.

I have discussed these issues with PETA types before. I have no fear of them or their positions, which I find completely naive and unrealistic. Illogical, even.

 

[Sjisty]

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Let 'em come.

I'm an animal rights activist, myself. I believe animals have rights. To live safely, be treated humanely, fed properly by their owners, and to be dispatched in a clean, humane manner when it comes time. It is because of all this that I am working toward self-sufficiency. I know how my animals were treated while they were alive, and how they will die when they do. I don't want to eat meat that comes from animals that were mistreated during their lifetimes.

I also believe even wild animals have rights. The right to live in the wild as long as they aren't trying to kill or harm my animals. That is one reason why I have dogs. They act as deterrents, to keep the varmints away so I don't have to kill them when they try to get to my critters.

But when that deterrent doesn't work and the beasties get through my defenses anyway, my dogs or I will kill them, quickly and humanely as we possibly can. To not do so would be cruel to the animals under my care.

I have discussed these issues with PETA types before. I have no fear of them or their positions, which I find completely naive and unrealistic. Illogical, even.

 

[Ladyhawke1]

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Let 'em come.

I'm an animal rights activist, myself. I believe animals have rights. To live safely, be treated humanely, fed properly by their owners, and to be dispatched in a clean, humane manner when it comes time. It is because of all this that I am working toward self-sufficiency. I know how my animals were treated while they were alive, and how they will die when they do. I don't want to eat meat that comes from animals that were mistreated during their lifetimes.

I also believe even wild animals have rights. The right to live in the wild as long as they aren't trying to kill or harm my animals. That is one reason why I have dogs. They act as deterrents, to keep the varmints away so I don't have to kill them when they try to get to my critters.

But when that deterrent doesn't work and the beasties get through my defenses anyway, my dogs or I will kill them, quickly and humanely as we possibly can. To not do so would be cruel to the animals under my care.

I have discussed these issues with PETA types before. I have no fear of them or their positions, which I find completely naive and unrealistic. Illogical, even.

Me too!

However, lets’ not paint all animal rights people with the same brush. Some of them have livestock too.

This morning about five, I had my run in with some predators. It was still pitch black out and I heard a fuss outside. I looked out the door to see two possums fighting. I grabbed my flashlight and my trusty “spear” ran outside ready to do battle. Yeah…me in my nighty and slippers.

I check the girls first and everyone was ok. I stood still and I could hear rustling in opposite corner of the yard in the bushes…however, it would have been impossible to “dispatch” anything in these bushes….so I did my big nasty cat hiss.

Things just scattered and I could not see what it was. As for what I would have done when I confronted it or them…?????

Years ago, in the middle of the night, I did battle with a full-grown bull-coon. I was worried about my city dogs who knew nothing about “wild” animals. I managed to knock the coon off my fence into the neighbor’s yard. I heard the next day that they called animal control. Hee…hee. Sometimes I think I need my head examined.

 

[Buster52]

Quote:
Let 'em come.

I'm an animal rights activist, myself. I believe animals have rights. To live safely, be treated humanely, fed properly by their owners, and to be dispatched in a clean, humane manner when it comes time. It is because of all this that I am working toward self-sufficiency. I know how my animals were treated while they were alive, and how they will die when they do. I don't want to eat meat that comes from animals that were mistreated during their lifetimes.

I also believe even wild animals have rights. The right to live in the wild as long as they aren't trying to kill or harm my animals. That is one reason why I have dogs. They act as deterrents, to keep the varmints away so I don't have to kill them when they try to get to my critters.

But when that deterrent doesn't work and the beasties get through my defenses anyway, my dogs or I will kill them, quickly and humanely as we possibly can. To not do so would be cruel to the animals under my care.

I have discussed these issues with PETA types before. I have no fear of them or their positions, which I find completely naive and unrealistic. Illogical, even.

Me too!

However, lets’ not paint all animal rights people with the same brush. Some of them have livestock too.

Including this one.

 

[newchickmom09]

Way to go Titus!!! What a little champ! I think the post was very clearly posted to explain what was in the here.

I love seeing dogs act out what they are bred to do. Now a days all many people think about are those "hybrid" dogs that are only mutts with fancy names. To hear of a dog that does his job is great. I personaly have a australian cattle dog/pit/lab mix with a lot of the heeler personality and instincts and he is a great flock watcher. He is great with the ducks and chickens. He is the most happiest walking around protecting the chickens herding them around. We don't have any large livestock so he can't do his job but we do what we can to make our dogs happy. We also have an old lab 13 yrs, she is in heaven when we go out hunting and she gets to chase birds or rabbits and bring them back to us.

I have my camera on a shelf by my door, that is where I keep it. I keep it there so I can have it in a second if I want.

She did the right thing telling her dog good job, the dog was already in the fight. If you start yelling them to stop then you have a dog that will turn around and look at you then the coon could have really hurt him.

Everything worked out and now the dog knows he did good and is happy. He was taken to the vet and is ok so no harm done.

to PETA

 

[frankenchick]

post #64: very well said, Gonzo_MN.

There's nothing finer than an animal rights person who respects/understands animal nature.

And nothing more irritating than one who doesn't.