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Moonshiner I just love your approach!
- That is the adventurous way to get to the goal --
Me, I'm the what is the most direct route. Maybe because before I retired I was a project manager and the mantra was 'On time, to specs, within budget'. LOL -- And I have a limited amount of sand in the hour-glass before I check out and go to the 'happy hunting ground' (does anyone remember that term?)
So it is going to be so interesting to see how your project progresses. I wonder if an example of what my barred birds would look like would be your barred birds - photoshopped to lighten the black. Different breeds manifest plumage patterns in different ways - as that early post showing Isabel(la) showed in the brahman bantams and the legbars.,
I'm thinking the most direct route for me is --
1. have breeding age Isabels and Legbars (of course) -
2. Cross CL male with Isabel female. (My project started opposite, because I had adult CL females -- they had been laying a year or more). More on that later.
3. All the resulting chicks would be split for lavender and barring. ---> Cross THOSE splits back to lavender.... In my case, only the males from my first breeding had barring....because they got 1 barring gene from the mother hen.
(which incidentally is where I am right now -- getting the chicks) - The male is split and barred and the females are Isabel..for the eggs that I have in the 'big incubator' and for the batches that I have hatched and are now brooder chicks.
4. Select only the lavender barred chicks - females will possibly be the end product (color-wise) ditching the crest will be a bit more selective breeding The males will be one step away from the end product - because they can have, from that pairing only 1 barring gene -- so THIS is the satge that I need to high-volume hatch - because so few of the chicks will have the right combination. *
5. Cross lavender barred + lavender barred males and females -- and select the double barred males -- They should be sexable at hatch - in theory the little cockerel chicks will have a white head blotch and diffused dorsal stripes.
Here is a feather that was in the brooder -- I don't know which of the three lost it
Tell me, is that faint barring at the very end?
Here are some through the wires photos -- but they just wouldn't hold still and this camera is a two-handed camera. When I hold the bird on one hand and the camera in the other - in order to reach the shutter, I bolck the auto-focus sensor. -- I'll take some color readings with the phone later...
Meanwhile this feather came in at 'heather blue' several times and as 'Gray Chateau / Gray '
http://www.color-hex.com/color/a5abb1
If you follow that link and go to the 'tints of a5abb1' the match to my eye is around the 4th or 5th from the right on the swatches on that line on my computer screen.
Since the color is 'self-blue' aka 'lavender' getting a reading of ;Heather / Blue' isn't remarkable it is this link:
http://www.color-hex.com/color/babec1
If you follow that link and go to the 'tints of babec1' the match is the same range of saturation around the 3rd, 4th or 5th from the right.
But then again, look at how close they are in RGB analysis
Chateau Gray: Rounded R:32% G:33% B:35% - actually is 34.5 so rounded up -- but that makes it only 1/2 of 1% different in blue --
Heather Blue: Rounded up R:33% G:33% B:34%
And these were taken indoors on a cloudy day -- because source of light also has an influence.
Okay enough techie stuff, huh?
Here's some real-life photos
Remember when I said the one lavender chick from the last hatch looks like a little boy because of the grouchy face?
too cute and fluffy for sure.
And the other brooder has 2 lavs and some browns
Below is an example of a brown and with some very definite markings on the little wings:
And the three juveniles:
Wing looks barred...................
Tail doesn't look barred.....
ETA if you look at the last two photos -- the very last one looks very 'blue' and the one abouve more lavender.... flourescent light - just a bit different angle - same chicken.
Me, I'm the what is the most direct route. Maybe because before I retired I was a project manager and the mantra was 'On time, to specs, within budget'. LOL -- And I have a limited amount of sand in the hour-glass before I check out and go to the 'happy hunting ground' (does anyone remember that term?)
So it is going to be so interesting to see how your project progresses. I wonder if an example of what my barred birds would look like would be your barred birds - photoshopped to lighten the black. Different breeds manifest plumage patterns in different ways - as that early post showing Isabel(la) showed in the brahman bantams and the legbars.,
I'm thinking the most direct route for me is --
1. have breeding age Isabels and Legbars (of course) -
2. Cross CL male with Isabel female. (My project started opposite, because I had adult CL females -- they had been laying a year or more). More on that later.
3. All the resulting chicks would be split for lavender and barring. ---> Cross THOSE splits back to lavender.... In my case, only the males from my first breeding had barring....because they got 1 barring gene from the mother hen.
(which incidentally is where I am right now -- getting the chicks) - The male is split and barred and the females are Isabel..for the eggs that I have in the 'big incubator' and for the batches that I have hatched and are now brooder chicks.
4. Select only the lavender barred chicks - females will possibly be the end product (color-wise) ditching the crest will be a bit more selective breeding The males will be one step away from the end product - because they can have, from that pairing only 1 barring gene -- so THIS is the satge that I need to high-volume hatch - because so few of the chicks will have the right combination. *
5. Cross lavender barred + lavender barred males and females -- and select the double barred males -- They should be sexable at hatch - in theory the little cockerel chicks will have a white head blotch and diffused dorsal stripes.
Here is a feather that was in the brooder -- I don't know which of the three lost it
Tell me, is that faint barring at the very end?
Here are some through the wires photos -- but they just wouldn't hold still and this camera is a two-handed camera. When I hold the bird on one hand and the camera in the other - in order to reach the shutter, I bolck the auto-focus sensor. -- I'll take some color readings with the phone later...
Meanwhile this feather came in at 'heather blue' several times and as 'Gray Chateau / Gray '
http://www.color-hex.com/color/a5abb1
If you follow that link and go to the 'tints of a5abb1' the match to my eye is around the 4th or 5th from the right on the swatches on that line on my computer screen.
Since the color is 'self-blue' aka 'lavender' getting a reading of ;Heather / Blue' isn't remarkable it is this link:
http://www.color-hex.com/color/babec1
If you follow that link and go to the 'tints of babec1' the match is the same range of saturation around the 3rd, 4th or 5th from the right.
But then again, look at how close they are in RGB analysis
Chateau Gray: Rounded R:32% G:33% B:35% - actually is 34.5 so rounded up -- but that makes it only 1/2 of 1% different in blue --
Heather Blue: Rounded up R:33% G:33% B:34%
And these were taken indoors on a cloudy day -- because source of light also has an influence.
Okay enough techie stuff, huh?
Here's some real-life photos
Remember when I said the one lavender chick from the last hatch looks like a little boy because of the grouchy face?
too cute and fluffy for sure.
And the other brooder has 2 lavs and some browns
Below is an example of a brown and with some very definite markings on the little wings:
And the three juveniles:
Wing looks barred...................
Tail doesn't look barred.....
ETA if you look at the last two photos -- the very last one looks very 'blue' and the one abouve more lavender.... flourescent light - just a bit different angle - same chicken.
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