Lavender patterned Isabel duckwing barred - lavender brown cuckoo barred - project and genetic dis

[The Moonshiner]

This is so so thought provoking!

Gotta keep you thinking. The more you do the less i'll have too.
I hatched my first coronation sussex today from a trio i picked up a month or so ago and i got a variety pack of modern game bantams which i believe has a couple self blues in there.
Gotta get this lavender gene all nailed down.

 

[ChicKat]

Gotta keep you thinking. The more you do the less i'll have too.
I hatched my first coronation sussex today from a trio i picked up a month or so ago and i got a variety pack of modern game bantams which i believe has a couple self blues in there.
Gotta get this lavender gene all nailed down.

Okay -- rely on me.

 

[campingshaws]

Saw this and thought of you! In my area advertised as lavender marans.

 

[ChicKat]

Saw this and thought of you! In my area advertised as lavender marans.

Thanks -- that's something. Can you tell if they have feathered legs? -- so I guess if they have the size, lay brown eggs and have feathered shanks it would add up.
ETA - and it looks like they have red Earlobes too.....that's Marans right?

AHa - here's another contrast -- the legs look really slate -- don't they?

 

[campingshaws]

I think you can zoom in more on these photos. I'm mobile, so it's still hard to see anything.

 

[ChicKat]

Thanks! I wouls say the center female definitely has slate legs -- and I'm going with confirming their red earlobes. Was thinking it is a bit like a Paint horse or a Palomino, the color is so distinctive that you can tell from far away.

 

[hhong3138]

Thanks -- that's something.  Can you tell if they have feathered legs? -- so I guess if they have the size, lay brown eggs and have feathered shanks it would add up.   
ETA - and it looks like they have red Earlobes too.....that's Marans right?

AHa - here's another contrast -- the legs look really slate -- don't they?

Yes, they look feathered legs. I received a couple of lavender Marans hatching eggs, though the color of the eggs are light brown

 

[ChicKat]

Yes, they look feathered legs. I received a couple of lavender Marans hatching eggs, though the color of the eggs are light brown

You will have first hand knowledge -- are they set for the Easter Hatch-a-long?

 

[ChicKat]

This is, I think, pretty cool. Remember back in Post 220 of this thread the image of two different secondary feathers? Of course you do, because you memorized the thread right?

Okay, all kidding aside -- here is the image:

The wing triangle of a duckwing shows that (in this photo upper) narrow band. So for a silver duckwing - it would be white, for a gold duckwing it would be gold/brown -- as in the white triangle showing in this perfect silver crele artist rendition:



The LPID-B2 that are my ideal should have a lavender wing triangle -- well not really since in the original, undiluted bird it would be 'gold' (brown) [see the last photos of this post for brown pigment in that narrow band]. -- For that reason, it should have a peachy-mauve color right? (diluted 'gold' (brown))-- because lavender dilution would be working on the regular brown that would appear there in the triangle. (I should have used the gold crele -- but on the white crele the triangle really pops out )-- Here's a gold crele wing triangle:




And Mr. Isabel -- it's difficult to discern the wing triangle color:

The triangle shows color but only that 1 feather is white.


Now understand he had been in this show cage for a bit -- awaiting my friend to come over and hold him so I could use both hands on the camera -- since holding and opening the wing is a two-handed job for me -- Obligingly he grew a white feather in there so you can see his wing triangle isn't white....and here below (drum roll please) -- is the feather configuration on his wings corresponding to the feather image of secondaries from R.C. Punnett at the start of this post (as long as you can translate feathers that is!) So where in the Punnet image above the duckwing color was at the top -- in the image below his duckwing color is on the right of the feathers in a narrow band.

You can see the subtlety. Part of the feather is peach and part is lavender.... This is his right wing - here is a shot a bit wider out.

This was shot in shade with a northern exposure......nice colors on this guy.

In the cage shot, he was holding his wings out a bit to cool himself off - and that one white feather was prominent. - The reason I say it is obliging is because it shows the fifference between lavender and white....



The color difference almost looks like a play of light -- and the right-most feathers in the photo above the one directly above this lower one show some of the etching lines from the 'tiger stripes'.
Next - the secondary feathers from a split cockerel - who has only 1 lavender gene - and he also had one barring gene. (This photo is a pelt and the white stuff is Borax)


The top side of secondary feathers of a bird that appears 'gold'.



The underside of secondary feathers from a split lavender bird with one barring gene. Very faintly above the shaft/mid-rib of the feather you can see a little fade-in and fade-out of the pigment as the barring gene turned pigment distribution on and off.

ETA - I have trouble naming the colors -- so I will go get the handy-dandy phone app and see what names she will tell me that they are. Lavender - and -- diluted gold. -- sort of a peachy, mauvy, pinky -- well--- hmmm I will try to use technology to get a ballpark color.
The lavender is a bit bluer than HTML #85818d in today's cloudy light.
http://www.color-hex.com/color/85818d --> they call 'aluminum / gray'
I would say the swatches third and fourth from the right on the tints bar on that page...
Now the harder one...
Sort of like HTML #ab9e96 --> they call 'Del Rio / Brown' -- but it is a bit pinker than that and warmer.....
http://www.color-hex.com/color/ab9e96
maybe the second from the right on the tints row. -- or maybe a bit more like
HTML #9b5347 they call 'crail / red'
http://www.color-hex.com/color/9b5347
Third from the right on the tints line of swatches.

This dark cloudy sky is really affecting what the app picks up for colors....

 

[hhong3138]

You will have first hand knowledge -- are they set for the Easter Hatch-a-long?

They were hatched already