Lavender patterned Isabel duckwing barred - lavender brown cuckoo barred - project and genetic dis

[Brahma Chicken5000]

These aren't breeds that I'm familiar with -- but I think that according to Ameraucana SOP abiding people if it isn't a recognized color -- it automatically becomes an Easter Egger.... Personally I think EEs are cool chickens and had one once. EE's need more praise for what they are.
Beautiful pictures of chickens!

Someplace there is a chart on combs -- my guess is that the offspring will look much like the hen...if you pair this chicken with a pea comb, I think you will get pea comb...
Calling for expert insight here Y'all.

Thanks for your help. I’m also not very familiar with the breed.

 

[The Moonshiner]

But I know that both the pea comb and the rose comb are dominant and Wendy has a pea comb. So if Wendy is the product of an Ameraucana and a buff laced Wyandotte which comb would be dominant?

If you cross pure for pea comb to pure for rose comb you get all walnut combs.
If the Wyandotte only carried one rose gene that cross would be 50/50 between producing pea or walnut.
Only mentioned that since its not uncommon to get wyandottes that only carry one rose gene. Hence why single combs pop up in their lines.

 

[Brahma Chicken5000]

If you cross pure for pea comb to pure for rose comb you get all walnut combs.
If the Wyandotte only carried one rose gene that cross would be 50/50 between producing pea or walnut.
Only mentioned that since its not uncommon to get wyandottes that only carry one rose gene. Hence why single combs pop up in their lines.

I thought single combed Wyandottes popped up more in hatchery stock

 

[The Moonshiner]

I thought single combed Wyandottes popped up more in hatchery stock

Not sure how often they pop up in hatchery vs breeders but I know there's been breeders on this site that breed single combed ones in their lines.
Pure for rose comb is said to be linked to fertility issues so that's why they say they keep it 8n their line.
I had rose comb leghorns that the breeder I got them from was doing the same.
I'm not a fan of it. Even if your fertility is better you're putting a lot of chicks in the brooder that carry a DQ fault.
IDK

 

[Brahma Chicken5000]

Not sure how often they pop up in hatchery vs breeders but I know there's been breeders on this site that breed single combed ones in their lines.
Pure for rose comb is said to be linked to fertility issues so that's why they say they keep it 8n their line.
I had rose comb leghorns that the breeder I got them from was doing the same.
I'm not a fan of it. Even if your fertility is better you're putting a lot of chicks in the brooder that carry a DQ fault.
IDK

I’ve heard the same thing said about rose comb bantams and that breeders will keep a single combed sport to improve fertility.

 

[RiverOtter]

I'm not a fan of it. Even if your fertility is better you're putting a lot of chicks in the brooder that carry a DQ fault.
IDK

A DQ fault isn't a huge deal to most people - most folks don't show. I'd rather have fertile, productive chickens than 100% rose combed ones. And after all, people who do show don't show their entire flock. Keeping fertility up means you have a better chance of getting that lovely, SOP-perfect trio into the show ring.

What use is a perfect bird if it can't reproduce?

Of course, I am not the one to talk to. To me, most SOPs are the epitome of "first world problems". I don't care if a comb is slightly crooked, I want the judge to get their hands on the bird and figure out if this "dual purpose" breed would be worth cooking, or if they lost that.
I'm a lot more likely to take livestock standards seriously when they weigh production in. Infertile birds aren't productive, so to me, a rose comb is a cute trick, not the end-all and be-all of a breeding program.

 

[The Moonshiner]

A DQ fault isn't a huge deal to most people - most folks don't show. I'd rather have fertile, productive chickens than 100% rose combed ones. And after all, people who do show don't show their entire flock. Keeping fertility up means you have a better chance of getting that lovely, SOP-perfect trio into the show ring.

What use is a perfect bird if it can't reproduce?

Of course, I am not the one to talk to. To me, most SOPs are the epitome of "first world problems". I don't care if a comb is slightly crooked, I want the judge to get their hands on the bird and figure out if this "dual purpose" breed would be worth cooking, or if they lost that.
I'm a lot more likely to take livestock standards seriously when they weigh production in. Infertile birds aren't productive, so to me, a rose comb is a cute trick, not the end-all and be-all of a breeding program.

A lot of factors involved depending what the person was breeding for.
Also depends on just how much fertility was affected.
When I had the rose combs I had the same breed in single comb variety and rose comb variety.
Two different colors of rose combs. One was pure (as far as I found) for rose combs and the other had single comb genes in the line.
I never saw any difference myself in fertility rate between any I was breeding but I sure noticed more then a couple per hatch that ended up with wrong comb type.
My experience and my program goals makes the decision easy for me.

 

[Brahma Chicken5000]

@ChicKat did the man come and take the pullets/hens that you wanted to rehome?

 

[ChicKat]

Yes - they are rehomed now.

 

[ChicKat]

Seems like in my brain things get done faster than in 'real life' --- here's the current stage of progress:

• Both houses for the breeders are cleaned out as of yesterday.
• They are all wormed. What I use is Cydectin, a cattle pour on. The application rate I use is about 1 drop per pound of chicken. This would drive a scientifically minded medicalally oriented person crazy -- because a drop can vary in size.
• To introduce the cockerel, I confine him in the pen with the females for a day, put him in the house on the roost with them overnight, and the next morning, they wake up as roommates.

So in the first "breeding pen" - the Twin line, if you have been following this thread from

the beginning, and "Iris", who is the only one of these 5 that lays a tinted egg is in that pen. She's the one that is my "ideal" look. This is based on type, small comb that doesn't flop, and a good barring indication plus a cream color in the neck hackles. She has a pink leg band. In future I would select for her type, comb, coloration and seek a clear cream hackle, and any chicken that has the deepest light salmon on the breast feathers.

He's safe from them, and they are safe from him -- in his little pen. Notice that the females ARE curious though.

Now the next day, he's free to roam the pen

This one is the more saturated of the two cockerels that are breeders, and you can see his duckwing band is very straight across the bottom, and his wing triangle is definite.

Remember way back when we first started this thread, we were concerned that multiple generations of lavender bred to lavender would fade the colors to look like an off white color.

So here they are going about their chicken business in a very nonchalant way. All good.

Now pen two -- remember pink band = the Twin line, and blue band = the Jackson line....
So when the females went to roost last night, I pulled the Jackson line and put them in the other pen, that I had just cleaned the house that day.... The other male is on - be in the show cage day of his new residency:

The second cockerel has a better tail, and is a tad larger, although the little one weighed 5-pounds (hence 5-drops of wormer)

So I will give them a week, and that will allow the cydectin to work through their systems, and the roosters to fertilize the hens...and then start collecting eggs for the incubator.