Wish I could have gotten a handicapped spot when I had knee surgery twice...that huge gimp from the back of the parking lot to the front of the parking lot is NOT fun when it's 100* outside and you can barely move in the first place...
Let's Talk About Manners...
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they're not easy to get..... I know that all too well...
sorry you had to endure that
they're not easy to get..... I know that all too well...
sorry you had to endure that
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Maybe he should be reminded that there but for the grace of God goes anyone of us.
why would your husband even make any comments / motions at all? I dont understand
Reading this nearly made me cry.
I dont know why he has a "thing" about mental handicapped people but he does have alot of sympathy for Vietnam Veterans that came home mentally ill and he does not "mark" them crazy.
It does bother me too! something has to deal with his childhood thing.
Maybe he should be reminded that there but for the grace of God goes anyone of us.
why would your husband even make any comments / motions at all? I dont understand
I dont know why he has a "thing" about mental handicapped people but he does have alot of sympathy for Vietnam Veterans that came home mentally ill and he does not "mark" them crazy.
It does bother me too! something has to deal with his childhood thing.
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I have genuine sympathy for anyone with a handicap sever enough to qualify for this program. In fact my passion on this issue comes from my mother who suffered for 10 years with emphysema, and my father-in-law who suffered from congestive heart failure. And on multiple occasions we were unable to obtain handicap parking spots because someone who obviously wasn't qualified was taking a spot.
BUT... I have a different perspective on public oversight of these spots. You have stated that it is difficult to get a permit. To legitimately get one.... that is true. But anyone with Photoshop and/or a relative/friend is able to acquire a temporary placard or reasonable facsimile. In fact, in my state they found that over 30% of people using the spots were not entitled! And my state actually encourages public assistance in policing these spots for that very reason.
So, I understand your frustration, but still think your criticism of folks on this issue is not entirely fair. In the long run, I still believe that public oversight of these spots is both necessary and in your best interest and thus should not be criticized or responded to with rudeness. Just something to consider...
I have genuine sympathy for anyone with a handicap sever enough to qualify for this program. In fact my passion on this issue comes from my mother who suffered for 10 years with emphysema, and my father-in-law who suffered from congestive heart failure. And on multiple occasions we were unable to obtain handicap parking spots because someone who obviously wasn't qualified was taking a spot.
BUT... I have a different perspective on public oversight of these spots. You have stated that it is difficult to get a permit. To legitimately get one.... that is true. But anyone with Photoshop and/or a relative/friend is able to acquire a temporary placard or reasonable facsimile. In fact, in my state they found that over 30% of people using the spots were not entitled! And my state actually encourages public assistance in policing these spots for that very reason.
So, I understand your frustration, but still think your criticism of folks on this issue is not entirely fair. In the long run, I still believe that public oversight of these spots is both necessary and in your best interest and thus should not be criticized or responded to with rudeness. Just something to consider...
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No... you dont understand my frustration at all.. and I'm mildly offended actually. If you understood my position and why I posted, then you would be just as offended as I and any other legitimate placard/tagged person is when they are approached by jerks who harrass, spit and follow a person into a store, call the manager and basically hold you hostage while raging at you and calling you names - which is what occurred with my mother.
So no.. I'm the one who's offended and you better believe I will respond in kind each and every time someone gets up in my face or her face because as you clearly pointed out... LEGITIMATE TAGS are very hard to get, as in the case with your parents, correct?
I believe this was my rant... if you have your own.. feel free - but...
Thanks... have a good day
No... you dont understand my frustration at all.. and I'm mildly offended actually. If you understood my position and why I posted, then you would be just as offended as I and any other legitimate placard/tagged person is when they are approached by jerks who harrass, spit and follow a person into a store, call the manager and basically hold you hostage while raging at you and calling you names - which is what occurred with my mother.
So no.. I'm the one who's offended and you better believe I will respond in kind each and every time someone gets up in my face or her face because as you clearly pointed out... LEGITIMATE TAGS are very hard to get, as in the case with your parents, correct?
I believe this was my rant... if you have your own.. feel free - but...
Thanks... have a good day
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Please do not "wait park" in handicap spots either! Go elsewhere to 'wait park' like way out in the other side of the parking lot and keep watching for your partner go in the store and as they come out, go pick them up. Its easier than trying to take the spot when there is a need.
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Hmmm.... well "public oversight" doesn't mean "spitting", "name calling", "harassing", or "hostage taking". Nobody's advocating THAT here! Just because some people are jerks shouldn't mean you paint a whole process based on their behavior. "Public oversight" is more like "Excuse me sir, but I noticed you used a handicap spot while walking around with that 50lb bag of chicken feed on your shoulder... what up with that?"
Look, we're not going to agree here, I just wanted you to consider the other side of the coin - the distinct possibility that without some public oversight you might find open handicap spots increasingly hard for you and your mom to find - that's all... I won't respond on this topic again.
OK... so here's my rant... people who use handicap parking when they aren't entitled to it - after all THEY are the real root of the problem here...
Hmmm.... well "public oversight" doesn't mean "spitting", "name calling", "harassing", or "hostage taking". Nobody's advocating THAT here! Just because some people are jerks shouldn't mean you paint a whole process based on their behavior. "Public oversight" is more like "Excuse me sir, but I noticed you used a handicap spot while walking around with that 50lb bag of chicken feed on your shoulder... what up with that?"
Look, we're not going to agree here, I just wanted you to consider the other side of the coin - the distinct possibility that without some public oversight you might find open handicap spots increasingly hard for you and your mom to find - that's all... I won't respond on this topic again.
OK... so here's my rant... people who use handicap parking when they aren't entitled to it - after all THEY are the real root of the problem here...
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OK... sorry but I'm having a hard time understanding the logic here - perhaps you could help me out. Just trying to understand your point of view here
I thought the intent of handicap parking spots was to aid those who have mobility problems and difficulty walking... right?
So if someone doesn't appear to have a mobility problem, is it consistent with the intent of the law for them to use a handicap spot anymore than anyone else who doesn't appear to have a mobility problem? I mean are they really mobility challenged enough to justify using one of those spots?
Secondly, is it really fair to criticize folks in the above situation? Are you advocating that people never question something that appears wrong and out of place? After all people who challenge others on their use of handicap parking are really just trying to help make sure those spaces are there for folks that need them. I have personally known someone who used their parent's placard - and we all know there is a lot of abuse of these spots.
Perhaps the crux of the problem is that "Handicap Parking" should have been called something like "Limited Mobility" parking instead.
Some people have lung or heart problems, that you wouldn't see.
That's right. My mother has been terminal for years. She has a heart condition. She walks okay for a lady of 71 who has arthritis but she shouldn't be walking very far and she can't walk at all on really hot or humid days so she has a handicapped sticker-now the problem with this is that Mom doesn't drive. The sticker is in my brother's car so that when he takes her somewhere she can safely walk a shorter distance to the store. But my brother also uses it when she's not with him and that's wrong.
OK... sorry but I'm having a hard time understanding the logic here - perhaps you could help me out. Just trying to understand your point of view here
I thought the intent of handicap parking spots was to aid those who have mobility problems and difficulty walking... right?
So if someone doesn't appear to have a mobility problem, is it consistent with the intent of the law for them to use a handicap spot anymore than anyone else who doesn't appear to have a mobility problem? I mean are they really mobility challenged enough to justify using one of those spots?
Secondly, is it really fair to criticize folks in the above situation? Are you advocating that people never question something that appears wrong and out of place? After all people who challenge others on their use of handicap parking are really just trying to help make sure those spaces are there for folks that need them. I have personally known someone who used their parent's placard - and we all know there is a lot of abuse of these spots.
Perhaps the crux of the problem is that "Handicap Parking" should have been called something like "Limited Mobility" parking instead.
Some people have lung or heart problems, that you wouldn't see.
That's right. My mother has been terminal for years. She has a heart condition. She walks okay for a lady of 71 who has arthritis but she shouldn't be walking very far and she can't walk at all on really hot or humid days so she has a handicapped sticker-now the problem with this is that Mom doesn't drive. The sticker is in my brother's car so that when he takes her somewhere she can safely walk a shorter distance to the store. But my brother also uses it when she's not with him and that's wrong.
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I'm sorry, I hate to laugh, but that phrasing made me giggle. We are *all* terminal.
(KS is sad to hear about your mother's struggles though.)
I'm sorry, I hate to laugh, but that phrasing made me giggle. We are *all* terminal.
(KS is sad to hear about your mother's struggles though.)
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You're killing me!!!
Oh, and saying "no offense, but" does not make what you're going to say unoffensive...in fact it amplifies my offense to your rudeness!
Those stupid urban tanks they call SUV's drive me NUTS. if they park next to me and dont leave enough space, I am much obliged to leave dents and paint chips from my van door on the side of their car. And if that means setting off the alarm, so be it.
That is one of my BIGGEST peeves. Why the XXXX do people need those things? Half of them are giant with no power- cant pull much more than a pair of snowmobiles with them, so why not just get a minivan? Stupid idiots and their giant SUV's.
Ummm yeah, I have an SUV because I have six kids at home (out of eight) and I can't fit eight people in your standard mini-van. I also can't pull a horse trailer with your standard mini-van. My SUV is a 3/4 ton that I ONLY use if I'm taking the whole family or pulling a trailer or picking up a truckload of animal feed. I can put every one of my kids in that car, buy a month's worth of groceries and pull two big draft horses and STILL go 70 miles an hour uphill. Love my SUV.
Oh, and saying "no offense, but" does not make what you're going to say unoffensive...in fact it amplifies my offense to your rudeness!
Those stupid urban tanks they call SUV's drive me NUTS. if they park next to me and dont leave enough space, I am much obliged to leave dents and paint chips from my van door on the side of their car. And if that means setting off the alarm, so be it.
That is one of my BIGGEST peeves. Why the XXXX do people need those things? Half of them are giant with no power- cant pull much more than a pair of snowmobiles with them, so why not just get a minivan? Stupid idiots and their giant SUV's.
Ummm yeah, I have an SUV because I have six kids at home (out of eight) and I can't fit eight people in your standard mini-van. I also can't pull a horse trailer with your standard mini-van. My SUV is a 3/4 ton that I ONLY use if I'm taking the whole family or pulling a trailer or picking up a truckload of animal feed. I can put every one of my kids in that car, buy a month's worth of groceries and pull two big draft horses and STILL go 70 miles an hour uphill. Love my SUV.
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