Making New Dog Breeds

[kdcrws]

LOL!

 

[mtnhomechick]

Quote:
My whole LIFE is an "inappropriate yuck yuck."

Yep, mine too. Guess we have something in common here!

 

[BantyHugger]

OK, honestly. This post has gotten considerably off topic.

I was hoping to make this a registered breed one day. NOT because i want to get rich quick, and NOT so i can watch 1,000s of crappy breeders corrupt them. I consider Border Labs an excellent dog. Their smart, playful, and have a pleasing appearance. They come from parents that were originally bred to hunt or herd and can be trained in either course. I DID NOT WANT TO HERE EVERY SAPPY I SAVED A DOG STORY OR ALL THE BREEDERS ARE IDIOTS STORIES. IF YOU HAVE NO INTEREST IN TELLING ME HOW TO REGISTER A NEW BREED OF DOG DO NOT POST!
Thanks
Mariah

 

[redhen]

ouch!...

.......

 

[redhen]

if you REALLY want to know how to make this a registered breed....i would think the first place to call is the AKC registery....i would think they would be the ones to tell you what you need to do IF it can be done....i probably have the AKC # here somewhere if you need it...no need to be snippy though...people were just trying to be helpful and nice...and give info you might want someday...

..sorry..thats just my opinion....good luck with your dogs!..

 

[BantyHugger]

Quote:
Sorry, I didn't mean to be so snippy. Its just my post seemed to be high jacked and turned into a huge argument. I understand that pound dogs are great, in fact i even have one. Also everyone is entitled to their own opinions. Some people like designer dogs some don't. Its just a lot of info I wasn't looking for. Next time I'll add some rules for not bashing breeders or something. I honestly didn't expect it to turn into an argument about responsible breeding.
I just want to thank anyone who was truly trying to help here. Sorry again for snapping.

 

[ninjapoodles]

Quote:
For both AKC and UKC, it takes years and years and years, and MANY generations of dogs past the original F1 generation. You have to get your "new breed" to "breed true," that is, to consistently reproduce itself, true to type. The parent breed club must write a clear, concise breed standard describing everything about the dog. You'd need to form a strong club with many members breeding these dogs, and hold specialty shows, including a breed national show.

Once all this is accomplished, IF the kennel club approves your application, your new breed may be admitted on a kind of probationary status. They will be able to participate in "non regular" classes at shows, and judged against their standard, but not against any other breeds or eligible to compete for Groups or BIS. If everything goes well, after a number of years, the new breed may be admitted as a "regular" breed.

If you just have a certain F1 cross that you feel is great at what it does, then what's wrong with just calling it a "Lab/Border Collie cross?" The made-up names are cute, but without true breed type, they don't really mean anything. I say just call it what it is, do what you want to accomplish with each dog, and have a good time with them.

Or, if a person just dying to register something as a "breed," then there are "registries" out there who will register ANYTHING, based on nothing more than your signature and your $$$. You can call it whatever you want. I've seen "registered" dogs such as "schnorkies," "maltipoos," etc.

 

[ninjapoodles]

The main hurdle you'd face, and what I was trying to explain using poodle crosses as an example, is that NO reputable AKC or UKC breeder of either Labs or Border Collies is going to let anyone get hold of their stock that they've worked so hard on, for the purpose of breeding mixes. So you'd be starting off with inferior stock from both parent breeds, which is a handicap from the get-go.

Border Collies were only just very recently accepted as a regular AKC breed themselves.

 

[ninjapoodles]

I just found an article from The Slate's "Explainer" on just this topic. Maybe it will help.

http://www.slate.com/id/2184198/

 

[BantyHugger]

Hmmm, I've decided that you must be incredibly greedy to want to make recognized breeds. I guess there really isn't a point to it. Your right ninjapoodles , We'll just stick to calling them what they are. Besides, as long as farmers have dogs I'm sure the Border collie/lab isn't going any where.

Thanks again & sorry for snapping-
Mariah