Marans Thread - breed discussion & pictures are welcome!

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If he is from Copper parents then you will get gold or red leakage in the cuckoo males that are produced. They will be Marans but they will be Marans that are of crossed varieties and will not breed true. For example...if bred back to Black Copper.

Cuckoo are sex linked...even the females, but they can only pass along their cuckoo gene to their male offspring. Male cuckoo's pass along 1 copy of the gene to both female and male offspring.
Flgarden is right about breeding the Cuckoo male
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It would produce all barred babies, but the males would still be heterzygous and only have one copy of the barring gene. If a non cuckoo/barred female is used..she doesn't have a cuckoo gene to pass on the to boys, they will only get one copy from the Cuckoo father, but could be bred back to a female cuckoo and then would produce males that have 2 copies (homozygous) as they should. A heterzygous male cuckoo (only carries one copy of the cuckoo/barring gene) will be colored like that of the female cuckoo's vs the lighter color of the homozygous males.

I know sex links roos don't breed true. I have a BSL and he throws, black, blue, black barred and blue barred with my blue and splash girls and EE. All genders of any of the other colors. In fact I get less than half barred with him. Can't wait to breed a real barred roo. A barred roo that carries two copies of the barring will pass it to ALL offspring. If he only has one copy in theory half will be barred.

It has its advantages, I got colors I didn't expect and LOVED it!

I think I was wrong on the breeding the het. roo back to a barred female and getting homozygous males...no, maybe not..oh heck I've gone and confused myself....easy to do.
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Let me get back on that.

but about your BSL roo....I am not 100% certain, but if he were the barred product of a solid hen and a Barred roo that had 2 copies, he would be het. for barring and if bred back to a solid hen would produce half barred and half solid and this generation would not be sexlinked. I don't work with Cuckoo's or Barred birds or sexlinks, just tossing out what I have read and heard and could be wrong about the whole thing. Hoping someone corrects me if I am.
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But the colors of you are getting from him would be right, blue and black, black barred and blue barred. Breeding a black bird to the blue and the splash will produce those.
 
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I know sex links roos don't breed true. I have a BSL and he throws, black, blue, black barred and blue barred with my blue and splash girls and EE. All genders of any of the other colors. In fact I get less than half barred with him. Can't wait to breed a real barred roo. A barred roo that carries two copies of the barring will pass it to ALL offspring. If he only has one copy in theory half will be barred.

It has its advantages, I got colors I didn't expect and LOVED it!

I think I was wrong on the breeding the het. roo back to a barred female and getting homozygous males...no, maybe not..oh heck I've gone and confused myself....easy to do.
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Let me get back on that.

but about your BSL roo....I am not 100% certain, but if he were the barred product of a solid hen and a Barred roo that had 2 copies, he would be het. for barring and if bred back to a solid hen would produce half barred and half solid and this generation would not be sexlinked. I don't work with Cuckoo's or Barred birds or sexlinks, just tossing out what I have read and heard and could be wrong about the whole thing. Hoping someone corrects me if I am.
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But the colors of you are getting from him would be right, blue and black, black barred and blue barred. Breeding a black bird to the blue and the splash will produce those.

BSL roos are from barred hens and solid roos and only carry one copy. All the baby roos from a BSL, from what my brain can understand, can ONLY carry one copy too if the hen is solid. If she is barred some roos will carry two copies (one from her and one from the roo) and some will carry one (one from her and none from him) but you will still get some solid color pullets. Genetic people tried to get it over to me but they were way over my head
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evenin everyone! well....i just now am settling in for the night. Got home from work and went out immediately to shut in chickens...get to the last building and there's a DANG POSSUM in there going after my chickens! I got him pitchforked and pinned in the corner where I couldn't get a good shot at him. Man was he MEAN! So I called my uncle and he came over with his 22 since I didn't want to leave that stupid thing alone with my chickens. So, I'm up to 6...I'm determined I'm gonna keep catching these suckers!
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hello, nice to see someone else that has birchens....there sure are a lot of people getting into them lately. Were you planning on raising silver birchens or were you goin for golds? That boy appears to be a gold, so I was just curious.
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Good morning everyone! Well, my morning started with my heart racing. Kept hearing something outside and thought there might be some trouble in the pens so I opened the window to look out. Turns out one of the little guys was trying to express his roosterhood and was attempting to crow. Hope he gets better at that.
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Hello, Thanks for the gene info. I feel a little overwhelmed ATM. I will gather all the post in one file and figure out a chart. I need to see it on paper old school I guess. So what I understand black and blue are dominate traits and splash and cukoo are recessive. Plus some are only carried by the female or male. Chicken math is kicking my butt.
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