Marans Thread - breed discussion & pictures are welcome!

[desertmarcy]

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Do you happen to know what lines these are out of? Also, is the chick at the beginning of your post out of the birds you posted pics of? I'm just curious as I've never seen a copper with quite those markings and Kim's statement about the salmon this morning has my mind processing a few things.
Welcome to the thread by the way! Don't think I've chatted with you before

I bought all my eggs off Ebay. The lighter blue pullets, the cockerel, and my splash Marans pullet are from Robert Bishop in Mississippi. He said he had the Davis bloodline; the splash pullet and the blue copper with the white band are from eggs taken from what he said was his best and first hen he got from Bev Davis. The chick is out of these blue coppers, yes. I don't know if from the Bishop pullets or the pullet from the second seller, who is David Prather in Kentucky. He said his lines are from Davis and Jeane. I sadly

only ended up with one bird from his eggs that I worked so hard to win on Ebay

No, I haven't chatted with you. I try my best to keep up with several threads that I subscribe to, but I have a lot of birds, and seem to spend an inordinate amount of time picking up poop

so I don't always have the time. Any thoughts on my birds or that chick in particular, are welcome! Which copper are you referring to that you haven't seen quite those markings? The chick, or one of the others?

 

[gilavina]

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Do you happen to know what lines these are out of? Also, is the chick at the beginning of your post out of the birds you posted pics of? I'm just curious as I've never seen a copper with quite those markings and Kim's statement about the salmon this morning has my mind processing a few things.
Welcome to the thread by the way! Don't think I've chatted with you before

I bought all my eggs off Ebay. The lighter blue pullets, the cockerel, and my splash Marans pullet are from Robert Bishop in Mississippi. He said he had the Davis bloodline; the splash pullet and the blue copper with the white band are from eggs taken from what he said was his best and first hen he got from Bev Davis. The chick is out of these blue coppers, yes. I don't know if from the Bishop pullets or the pullet from the second seller, who is David Prather in Kentucky. He said his lines are from Davis and Jeane. I sadly

only ended up with one bird from his eggs that I worked so hard to win on Ebay

No, I haven't chatted with you. I try my best to keep up with several threads that I subscribe to, but I have a lot of birds, and seem to spend an inordinate amount of time picking up poop

so I don't always have the time. Any thoughts on my birds or that chick in particular, are welcome! Which copper are you referring to that you haven't seen quite those markings? The chick, or one of the others?

I just meant the markings on the breasts of some of the girls...its odd they have their coloring there and not really on the neck. It makes me curious and also noticed there is lighter feather shafting as well as one of the girl's had a blue tip on the feathers of their breast. I don't know technical genetic coding like some of the folks on here, but I'm hoping some that do will pop in and maybe offer some insight for you.

The chick makes me curious because it does sort of have the look of a salmon.... if he came out of one of those I would guess there might be some salmon in the background of them. Perhaps...that might be some of why the coloring on the breast is so prominent?

 

[Mountain Mel 22]

Vicki, you were reading my mind with your last post about the coloring in the breast feathers...I was wondering the same thing...

 

[desertmarcy]

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Well now you all have got me wondering, too. I had never seen a blue copper Maran in the flesh until I hatched mine, only pics. So I have just been thinking it was normal

I think they are lovely birds none the less, I love blue birds. I also have a question about the feathered feet. If they have no feathering at hatch, will they ever? If not, do most of you cull the ones that lack foot feathering, or do you just raise them for meat or what?

 

[gilavina]

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haha...too funny!

 

[gilavina]

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Well now you all have got me wondering, too. I had never seen a blue copper Maran in the flesh until I hatched mine, only pics. So I have just been thinking it was normal

I think they are lovely birds none the less, I love blue birds. I also have a question about the feathered feet. If they have no feathering at hatch, will they ever? If not, do most of you cull the ones that lack foot feathering, or do you just raise them for meat or what?

this is the pic I posted of my blue copper the other day.

a blue copper should ideally look exactly like a nicely copper collared black copper hen, but instead of a black body, a blue body. Their breast should be predominantly blue, your girls seem to run really heavy on the breast coloring. They are lovely, and if you don't plan on breeding to standard or for selling breeding stock and etc, they won't matter for a backyard flock.

If the birds don't have feathering when they hatch more than likely they won't get any...although you might want to ask BarnGoddess about the magical grass up in Canada and leg feathering

In all the breeds and colors I raise I cull heavily. If they have obvious DQs or faults that I can't work with in a breeding program, they are immediately removed from the option of going to the breeding pen. I do keep a layer flock for selling eating eggs, and do keep a regular supply of replacements out of my culls for that pen so I don't end up with birds all the same age. As far as whether they have or do not have leg feathering, it all depends on the situation. If I have a male that is clean legged but is fantastic in all other respects, and I have girls that are nicely feathered, I will put him over them and keep only those chicks that have good feathering from the offspring. Same for the clean legged girls. Now, if I have enough birds with good feathering on their legs, then I won't keep the clean legged ones, unless they have some attribute I'm needing...which will still require tons of culling and keeping only those that have good feathering. Its all a process and takes time. Oh...and other birds that don't make it to my breeding pen or to the layer flock will go as layers to other people's back yard flock (sold as dark egg layers), or they go to freezer camp. Marans are mighty tasty.

 

[DMRippy]

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Well now you all have got me wondering, too. I had never seen a blue copper Maran in the flesh until I hatched mine, only pics. So I have just been thinking it was normal

I think they are lovely birds none the less, I love blue birds. I also have a question about the feathered feet. If they have no feathering at hatch, will they ever? If not, do most of you cull the ones that lack foot feathering, or do you just raise them for meat or what?

this is the pic I posted of my blue copper the other day. https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/77986_img_2471.jpg

a blue copper should ideally look exactly like a nicely copper collared black copper hen, but instead of a black body, a blue body. Their breast should be predominantly blue, your girls seem to run really heavy on the breast coloring. They are lovely, and if you don't plan on breeding to standard or for selling breeding stock and etc, they won't matter for a backyard flock.

If the birds don't have feathering when they hatch more than likely they won't get any...although you might want to ask BarnGoddess about the magical grass up in Canada and leg feathering

In all the breeds and colors I raise I cull heavily. If they have obvious DQs or faults that I can't work with in a breeding program, they are immediately removed from the option of going to the breeding pen. I do keep a layer flock for selling eating eggs, and do keep a regular supply of replacements out of my culls for that pen so I don't end up with birds all the same age. As far as whether they have or do not have leg feathering, it all depends on the situation. If I have a male that is clean legged but is fantastic in all other respects, and I have girls that are nicely feathered, I will put him over them and keep only those chicks that have good feathering from the offspring. Same for the clean legged girls. Now, if I have enough birds with good feathering on their legs, then I won't keep the clean legged ones, unless they have some attribute I'm needing...which will still require tons of culling and keeping only those that have good feathering. Its all a process and takes time. Oh...and other birds that don't make it to my breeding pen or to the layer flock will go as layers to other people's back yard flock (sold as dark egg layers), or they go to freezer camp. Marans are mighty tasty.

Not GRASS, DEW Magical DEW on the GRASS!

 

[gilavina]

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this is the pic I posted of my blue copper the other day. https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/77986_img_2471.jpg

a blue copper should ideally look exactly like a nicely copper collared black copper hen, but instead of a black body, a blue body. Their breast should be predominantly blue, your girls seem to run really heavy on the breast coloring. They are lovely, and if you don't plan on breeding to standard or for selling breeding stock and etc, they won't matter for a backyard flock.

If the birds don't have feathering when they hatch more than likely they won't get any...although you might want to ask BarnGoddess about the magical grass up in Canada and leg feathering

In all the breeds and colors I raise I cull heavily. If they have obvious DQs or faults that I can't work with in a breeding program, they are immediately removed from the option of going to the breeding pen. I do keep a layer flock for selling eating eggs, and do keep a regular supply of replacements out of my culls for that pen so I don't end up with birds all the same age. As far as whether they have or do not have leg feathering, it all depends on the situation. If I have a male that is clean legged but is fantastic in all other respects, and I have girls that are nicely feathered, I will put him over them and keep only those chicks that have good feathering from the offspring. Same for the clean legged girls. Now, if I have enough birds with good feathering on their legs, then I won't keep the clean legged ones, unless they have some attribute I'm needing...which will still require tons of culling and keeping only those that have good feathering. Its all a process and takes time. Oh...and other birds that don't make it to my breeding pen or to the layer flock will go as layers to other people's back yard flock (sold as dark egg layers), or they go to freezer camp. Marans are mighty tasty.

Not GRASS, DEW Magical DEW on the GRASS!

haha....ah, yes, that's what it was! haha

 

[gilavina]

Hey Donna,

how's redneck doing?

 

[DMRippy]

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He is alive... But his leg is really messed up

I will give him a good look over tomorrow... but I think he needs to be culled

I have a neighbor coming tomorrow to pick up 3 roos for sure and maybe 4 with redneck.

He just sits there but manages to move to the water and food, even the cold is not bothering him much.