Marans Thread - breed discussion & pictures are welcome!

Hey Don. Haven't been on much lately, so thought I'd say hi! Did you see the 6month progress photos on the blue copper girl I posted the other day? I also have a few other nice girls growing out that are way younger I haven't taken shots of yet. They are growing tails back from getting picked out from an overzealous Olive egger.
Vicki, If I had access to some of the makings of the Blue copper like that one I would certainly be involved with Blue Copper. I like the Blue Copper, White, Wheaten and the Black Copper. The Black copper is the hardest to breed variety of poultry I have ever tried to breed to standard, Sometimes I even wonder if it is even possible. The Pullet looks great.

Put these in the wrong hands and they will be mixed with junk and eggs sold all over the USA.
 
okay took a picture of my cuckoo marans cockeral that is almost 5 months old, noticed the other day that his wings look weird. Here is a picture of him. The other wing looks worse but he won't turn so that I could get a good shot. Ignore the cucumber he is standing over....

honest opinions of this greatly appreciated, you won't upset me if he should be culled.

 
Vicki, If I had access to some of the makings of the Blue copper like that one I would certainly be involved with Blue Copper. I like the Blue Copper, White, Wheaten and the Black Copper. The Black copper is the hardest to breed variety of poultry I have ever tried to breed to standard, Sometimes I even wonder if it is even possible. The Pullet looks great.

Put these in the wrong hands and they will be mixed with junk and eggs sold all over the USA.
I definitely hear what you are saying and why I've chosen to work on them without the pressure of making money off of them. With all the breeds and varieties I raise I feel a very strong sense of responsibility to do right by them and make them as good as I can get them and to me that also means finding people who also have similar mindsets to be good stewards of them. It sure ain't cheap or easy, but I am happy to do what I can, especially for the marans. Its good to know that I'm making a difference.
 
okay took a picture of my cuckoo marans cockeral that is almost 5 months old, noticed the other day that his wings look weird. Here is a picture of him. The other wing looks worse but he won't turn so that I could get a good shot. Ignore the cucumber he is standing over....

honest opinions of this greatly appreciated, you won't upset me if he should be culled.

We should not breed these birds with the DQs.
 
okay took a picture of my cuckoo marans cockeral that is almost 5 months old, noticed the other day that his wings look weird. Here is a picture of him. The other wing looks worse but he won't turn so that I could get a good shot. Ignore the cucumber he is standing over....

honest opinions of this greatly appreciated, you won't upset me if he should be culled.

I think that is split wing and VERY hard to breed away from. I cull for that one every time. I have only had it in one breed and I think all I hatched had it.
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If you pull the wing out it will have a gap at the bend, that is split wing.
 
Yup, I would say split wing too..

I didn't realize it was so genetic... Crap, just like the sprig I guess...
I have a Polish with that.... to the layer coop with you!
I am NOT telling you or anyone to breed a sprig, but I don't think that is as hard to breed against. BUT, I have never tried. Split wing is REALLY REALLY genetic. I would think it would pass on to 90-100%.... a sprig, I don't think that one would do that high, maybe 50%, but that is still too high. Even the ones that don't express the sprig could be CARRIERS lol... like the plague.
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I am NOT telling you or anyone to breed a sprig, but I don't think that is as hard to breed against. BUT, I have never tried. Split wing is REALLY REALLY genetic. I would think it would pass on to 90-100%.... a sprig, I don't think that one would do that high, maybe 50%, but that is still too high. Even the ones that don't express the sprig could be CARRIERS lol... like the plague.
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I did some reading about sprigs and personally I plan to cull every time I see them no matter how good the rest of the bird looks- it would take a lot of time and single mating to figure out who is a carrier which equals more space than I have. I would be an interesting project though!
 
I am NOT telling you or anyone to breed a sprig, but I don't think that is as hard to breed against. BUT, I have never tried. Split wing is REALLY REALLY genetic. I would think it would pass on to 90-100%.... a sprig, I don't think that one would do that high, maybe 50%, but that is still too high. Even the ones that don't express the sprig could be CARRIERS lol... like the plague.
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trust me on the sprig, they breed like wild fire, whether they exhibit it or not, they will be carriers. No matter how beautiful a bird is, if they have a sprig, I will not use them, its not worth the difficulty later on. It can haunt a flock for years if not rigorously dealt with. Just today I processed a blue birchen cockerel that was just lovely because he had a sprig. Heartbreaking, but there was no way I was going to use him.
 

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